# Largest City W/o Pro Team **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 12, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589 "2005-05-12T19:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589/21 "2005-05-12T23:45:58Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Columbus has an NHL franchise. Not last season! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589/22 "2005-05-13T01:33:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Rochester, per the OP, is a miserable #52. How is it possible that Albany snuck ahead of it? And since when was Batavia included in the Rochester metro area? They must have redefined the boundaries in the 2003 revision. Batavia? I can see Brockport and Bergen perhaps - maybe even Albion and Byron if you stretch the point - but Batavia? ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589/23 "2005-05-13T01:36:35Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > And since when was Batavia included in the Rochester metro area? They must have redefined the boundaries in the 2003 revision. Looks like you are dead-on. From [here:](http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/meta/long_metro.htm) > [@](#): > > U.S. Bureau of the Census: Metropolitan Areas. New areas usually are added annually; definitions of existing areas updated only after each decennial census, in years ending in 3. From [here:](http://www.policom.com/combined.htm) > [@](#): > > Combined Statistical Areas are composed of adjacent Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas which have demonstrated economic or social linkage. It may comprise two or more Metropolitan areas, a Metropolitan and Micropolitan area, two or more Micropolitan areas, or multiples of each. > > Combined Statistical Areas are automatically created when there is 25% or more of employment “interchange” (commuting). For areas between 15% and 25% interchange, the decision to create a Combined area was based upon local opinion as provided by the Congressional delegation. And from [here:](http://geography.about.com/cs/largecities/a/metromicro_2.htm), “A Listing of All 116 Brand-New Combined Statistical Areas” dated Jul 13 2003 > [@](#): > > 1. Rochester-Batavia-Seneca Falls, NY CSA ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589/24 "2005-05-13T02:22:59Z")
And note that a new Albany-Schenectady-Amsterdam, NY CSA was also created then. It includes: ```auto 104 Albany-Schenectady-Amsterdam, NY Combined Statistical Area 104 10580 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY Metropolitan Statistical Area 104 11220 Amsterdam, NY Micropolitan Statistical Area 104 24020 Glens Falls, NY Metropolitan Statistical Area 104 24100 Gloversville, NY Micropolitan Statistical Area 104 26460 Hudson, NY Micropolitan Statistical Area ``` [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/largest-city-w-o-pro-team/303589.md?page=1)