# Las Vegas: the people in orange with the escort cards

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 11, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518 "2015-01-11T01:45:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/21 "2015-01-12T17:11:48Z")

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> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#):
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> +1.
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> Having said that, if you do want to sleep with a prostitute, you should probably go somewhere where it’s actually legal. A flight to the Dominican Republic isn’t that much more expensive than one to Las Vegas.

Or drive an hour out of the city. I think Pahrump has brothels.

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/22 "2015-01-12T17:17:39Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> It’s not so much what but [where](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/quotes?item=qt0371641).  
> The middle of the awards ceremony (or in the Vatican), not so much. :o
> 
> While adultery isn’t illegal in most places anymore, it is still a morals violation for many people. Especially having your company be complicit (you were only in Vegas & away from the spouse because of company travel) in something that is seen as an integrity issue is not a bright idea. If you’ve proven you can’t be trusted in one area & will take advantage of the situation, why should I trust you in a different one? As with anything else like this, if you’re gonna do it, keep it on the DL.

Some people think premarital sex, homosexuality, or contraception are morals violations, too. I’m not really that comfortable with people being fired for consensual, non-abusive sexual behavior with legal adults outside of the workplace. (Then again, I’m not a fan of at-will employment, either, and if we were up to me we’d have labour laws closer to what they have in Europe. If you can do your job well, you shouldn’t be fired).

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/23 "2015-01-12T17:33:02Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Off topic, but now I’m curious…why is your company worried about what people do in their private lives?  
> It’s not a case of sexual harrassment of co-workers, I assume. So if a guy wants to cheat on his wife with a Vegas hooker, why does the company care?

It’s more that the people get fired for publicly doing something with a hooker that causes embarrassment to the company. Booze is also usually involved.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/24 "2015-01-12T18:01:08Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s more that the people get fired for publicly doing something with a hooker that causes embarrassment to the company. Booze is also usually involved.

You work for the secret service don’t you.

Declan

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**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/25 "2015-01-12T18:41:42Z")

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The sales convention attendee in Las Vegas was fired because he got caught. Maybe bragged about it?

Apparently not the sharpest guy. Like what was upthread, “Culling the herd”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/26 "2015-01-12T18:42:21Z")

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Actually if you get one of the higher quality services, they will send a beautiful woman up who will put on a perfectly legal sex show.

This used to be more what you got, but now that you can get a lap dance,etc at many “Gentlemans clubs” they are now mostly just hookers.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/27 "2015-01-12T18:54:33Z")

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> [@slash2k](#):
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> Honesty, integrity, good decision-making … yes.

Cunnilingus…

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/28 "2015-01-12T19:20:52Z")

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> [@slash2k](#):
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> Honesty, integrity, good decision-making … yes.

Applied in the same areas? To some extent, sure, but mostly Perot’s quote deserves nothing more than a big :dubious::rolleyes:.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/29 "2015-01-12T20:20:00Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s more that the people get fired for publicly doing something with a hooker that causes embarrassment to the company. Booze is also usually involved.

So, it is the doing it in public that’s the problem. I suspect an employee can do something dumb without a hooker.

I’m not sure why you have it in for Vegas. They do plenty of convention business with no problems, and other cities have hookers also. I went to the National Computer Conference in Houston in 1982, and the Astrodome was surrounded by hookers when the show let out.  
Who looked surprised that we geeks totally ignored them.  
People screw up everywhere, not just in Vegas.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/30 "2015-01-12T20:38:52Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> So, it is the doing it in public that’s the problem. I suspect an employee can do something dumb without a hooker.
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> I’m not sure why you have it in for Vegas. They do plenty of convention business with no problems, and other cities have hookers also. I went to the National Computer Conference in Houston in 1982, and the Astrodome was surrounded by hookers when the show let out.  
> Who looked surprised that we geeks totally ignored them.  
> People screw up everywhere, not just in Vegas.

There’s something about Vegas that brings out the stupid. We don’t have half the problems when the convention is in Orlando. It just makes no sense to me to keep going back to a known trouble spot.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/31 "2015-01-12T20:54:22Z")

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Absent being caught in an unlikely sting, you won’t get caught in Vegas. Assuming, of course, you don’t try and rip off the prostitute.

Prostitution should be legal but then that’s a different story.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/32 "2015-01-12T20:58:00Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> There’s something about Vegas that brings out the stupid. We don’t have half the problems when the convention is in Orlando. It just makes no sense to me to keep going back to a known trouble spot.

Like I opined upthread, I think it’s a good strategy. It allows you to identify the mooks with poor judgment and sack them before they can do too much damage.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/33 "2015-01-12T21:04:05Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Yes, they’re hookers and everyone in Vegas knows it, down to the last man, woman, and child. It’s theoretically illegal, but it doesn’t seem like anyone is going to any great efforts to enforce the law.

This is all I can figure. Seems like it would be a pretty easy thing to crack down on if they wanted to but for some reason nobody really cares to.  
Maybe Vegas like to give lip service to “we’re really trying to clean up the image here” but in reality those with a lot of money invested there (aka. casino owners) are influential enough to have the government lay off.  
Sort of like how’s it’s illegal to hire illegal limmigrants but nobody cares to enforce the rule since it would hurt big business owners.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/34 "2015-01-12T21:06:26Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Like I opined upthread, I think it’s a good strategy. It allows you to identify the mooks with poor judgment and sack them before they can do too much damage.

And if the people getting canned were all first-years, I might agree.

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/35 "2015-01-12T21:09:37Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Absent being caught in an unlikely sting, you won’t get caught in Vegas. Assuming, of course, you don’t try and rip off the prostitute.
> 
> Prostitution should be legal but then that’s a different story.

This is what happened with that Secret Service clown in Colombia. He hooked up with an $800-a-night prostitute, and then tried to pay her $50. She went to the cops (which you can do in a country where prostitution is perfectly legal) and the whole story came out.

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**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/36 "2015-01-12T21:18:42Z")

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Actually, (I heard) there are apparently rules for what those orange shirt guys can do. I think they can’t talk to you about the services because that is soliciting prostitution (that might not be the correct term for it). They ARE allowed to snap the card in order to get your attention. Somehow this isn’t soliciting prostitution.

J.

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/37 "2015-01-12T21:21:06Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> There’s something about Vegas that brings out the stupid. We don’t have half the problems when the convention is in Orlando. It just makes no sense to me to keep going back to a known trouble spot.

Agree 100% about the Vegas factor. We do client conferences in Vegas twice a year. Why Vegas? Because it is an almost guarantee we’ll get a lot of clients to attend because it is in Vegas. For many traveling to Vegas for a conference, there is that inherent hype that they’re going to go crazy-wild while there. I’ve seen it happen for years and years now. And naturally, throw a few thousand people together in Vegas for a conference and Stupid happens. Every. Single. Year.

Contrast that to the rare occasions where we hold the conference elsewhere, you get lower attendance and those who do attend go out for dinner, maybe have a drink or two at the hotel bar afterwards, and are usually making excuses about an early morning and are hitting their room by midnight. Very few people party till 5 AM, three days straight, when your conference is in Orlando. Haha.

MeanJoe

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/38 "2015-01-12T21:23:51Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> This is all I can figure. Seems like it would be a pretty easy thing to crack down on if they wanted to but for some reason nobody really cares to.  
> Maybe Vegas like to give lip service to “we’re really trying to clean up the image here” but in reality those with a lot of money invested there (aka. casino owners) are influential enough to have the government lay off.

Actually, it’s very much the opposite: Las Vegas has been trying to kill any hint of family friendliness for years. “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas” was an actual slogan from the tourism council. On a likely-related note, Treasure Island became just “TI” (with much less of a piratey emphasis), and they switched up the pirate show out front to include sexy sirens on one of the ships. It’s a bit of a mystery how Circus Circus has managed to survive (unless it now features terrifying nightmare clowns or something 😉 ).

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/39 "2015-01-12T21:29:07Z")

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What are the appropriate things to do with a hooker?  
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> [@Chris Rock](#):
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> A woman came up to me and said, “For $200 I’ll do _anything you want._”
> 
> I said, “Okay, paint my house.”

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/40 "2015-01-12T21:37:05Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> There’s something about Vegas that brings out the stupid. We don’t have half the problems when the convention is in Orlando. It just makes no sense to me to keep going back to a known trouble spot.

Seems that add campaign worked - “What happens in Vegas - really can fuck you up for life”.

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