# Las Vegas: the people in orange with the escort cards

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 11, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518 "2015-01-11T01:45:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/41 "2015-01-12T21:57:01Z")

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> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#):
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> This is what happened with that Secret Service clown in Colombia. He hooked up with an $800-a-night prostitute, and then tried to pay her $50.

a $800-a-night prostitute in Columbia? :dubious: That would be a $5000/night hooker in America.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/42 "2015-01-12T22:15:29Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> a $800-a-night prostitute in Columbia? :dubious: That would be a $5000/night hooker in America.

I suspect both exist.

Wasn’t Spitzer taken down by being exposed as spending time with an escort whose fee was in the thousands? Too lazy to look for it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/43 "2015-01-12T22:25:22Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> It’s not so much what but [where](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/quotes?item=qt0371641).  
> The middle of the awards ceremony (or in the Vatican), not so much. :o

Or [any ceremony](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087928/quotes?item=qt0512175), for that matter.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/44 "2015-01-12T22:31:43Z")

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@Shodan:

I’ve seen that joke, I’ve heard that joke, but somehow your timing in using it in this thread would have made milk squirt out my nose, had I the misfortune of drinking milk at that moment.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/45 "2015-01-12T22:32:30Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Wasn’t Spitzer taken down by being exposed as spending time with an escort whose fee was in the thousands? Too lazy to look for it.

[Here ya go.](http://www.therichest.com/luxury/most-expensive/the-10-most-expensive-female-escorts/4/)

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**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/46 "2015-01-13T18:00:26Z")

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> [@MeanJoe](#):
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> Agree 100% about the Vegas factor. We do client conferences in Vegas twice a year. Why Vegas? Because it is an almost guarantee we’ll get a lot of clients to attend because it is in Vegas. For many traveling to Vegas for a conference, there is that inherent hype that they’re going to go crazy-wild while there. I’ve seen it happen for years and years now. And naturally, throw a few thousand people together in Vegas for a conference and Stupid happens. Every. Single. Year.
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> Contrast that to the rare occasions where we hold the conference elsewhere, you get lower attendance and those who do attend go out for dinner, maybe have a drink or two at the hotel bar afterwards, and are usually making excuses about an early morning and are hitting their room by midnight. Very few people party till 5 AM, three days straight, when your conference is in Orlando. Haha.
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> MeanJoe

This is a great advertisement FOR VEGAS!!!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/47 "2015-01-13T18:59:37Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s more that the people get fired for publicly doing something with a hooker that causes embarrassment to the company. Booze is also usually involved.

> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> There’s something about Vegas that brings out the stupid. We don’t have half the problems when the convention is in Orlando. It just makes no sense to me to keep going back to a known trouble spot.

I used to live in Vegas. My wife was an attorney there. Her clients were mostly banks.

One fun case was a sales manager on a Vegas junket who ran up $25K on his company credit card at a gentlemen’s club one evening. This guy was not a high roller; he usually charged $15-20 meals.

After he was fired he tried to sue my wife’s client, the merchant bank of the club, for permitting him to run up these charges completely unwittingly.

The signatures on the charge slips & the security video of one discussion about champagne rooms stopped his case cold. Not to mention the utter implausibility of his legal theory that somehow our client was at fault.

I’m no graphologist, but looking at his sigs on the charge slips I suspect booze \*just may \*have been involved. This was years before YouTube, but the vid would have been a hit there too.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/48 "2015-01-15T01:22:40Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> So, it is the doing it in public that’s the problem. I suspect an employee can do something dumb without a hooker.
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> I’m not sure why you have it in for Vegas. They do plenty of convention business with no problems, and other cities have hookers also. I went to the National Computer Conference in Houston in 1982, and the Astrodome was surrounded by hookers when the show let out.  
> Who looked surprised that we geeks totally ignored them.  
> People screw up everywhere, not just in Vegas.

That one chick who was cosplaying Harley Quinn, though, made out like a bandit.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/49 "2015-01-15T06:35:16Z")

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> [@MeanJoe](#):
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> Agree 100% about the Vegas factor. We do client conferences in Vegas twice a year. Why Vegas? Because it is an almost guarantee we’ll get a lot of clients to attend because it is in Vegas. For many traveling to Vegas for a conference, there is that inherent hype that they’re going to go crazy-wild while there. I’ve seen it happen for years and years now. And naturally, throw a few thousand people together in Vegas for a conference and Stupid happens. Every. Single. Year.
> 
> Contrast that to the rare occasions where we hold the conference elsewhere, you get lower attendance and those who do attend go out for dinner, maybe have a drink or two at the hotel bar afterwards, and are usually making excuses about an early morning and are hitting their room by midnight. Very few people party till 5 AM, three days straight, when your conference is in Orlando. Haha.
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> MeanJoe

But isnt a conference for the purpose of actually doing business? As I understand, this is why many companies stay away from places like Vegas or vacation areas in general because they want the attendees to get whatever business needs done, done. Since nobody is going to stay out late they will be focused and get more out of the meetings and presentations.

This is part of the reason Overland Park Kansas (a suburb of Kansas City) gets alot of convention business. We are boring. Some bars but no strip clubs and no hookers hanging around. Work gets done at conventions here.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/50 "2015-01-15T16:48:52Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> But isnt a conference for the purpose of actually doing business? As I understand, this is why many companies stay away from places like Vegas or vacation areas in general because they want the attendees to get whatever business needs done, done. Since nobody is going to stay out late they will be focused and get more out of the meetings and presentations.
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> This is part of the reason Overland Park Kansas (a suburb of Kansas City) gets alot of convention business. We are boring. Some bars but no strip clubs and no hookers hanging around. Work gets done at conventions here.

Depends on the conference. A lot of them are about networking/sales/marketing.

Even if it’s a single large company holding a conference, it can be as much about getting wildly-dispersed employees to get to know each other better as it is actually sitting down and brainstorming through problems.

They are also often considered a reward/perk. Sending two people to Vegas out of the department every year can be something of an incentive. Sending two people to Overland Park every year is probably not.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/51 "2015-01-15T16:55:00Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> But isnt a conference for the purpose of actually doing business?

Nope. If the purpose is to actually get work done, you don’t need a conference; you need a few people in a meeting room.  
And if it’s an industry-wide convention, not a private company conference, then often there isn’t even any pretense of getting work done. It’s all about showmanship.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/52 "2015-01-16T01:19:05Z")

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> [@slash2k](#):
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> Honesty, integrity, good decision-making … yes.

Not picking up STDs that will raise our medical costs…not embarrassing me.

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**Author:** ![Subtlety\_Wrecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Subtlety\_Wrecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subtlety_Wrecks)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/53 "2015-01-17T22:47:59Z")

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Thank you for the opinions everyone, whether relating to my original questions or not. I won’t be holding any business conventions there if I’m ever in the position to decide such things.

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**Author:** ![Marion\_Wormer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Marion\_Wormer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marion_Wormer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-the-people-in-orange-with-the-escort-cards/709518/54 "2015-01-17T23:01:40Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Ross Perot’s answer to that question was “If his wife can’t trust him, why should I?”

Patton said that too.

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