# Las Vegas will win the LLWS this year

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 22, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172 "2014-08-22T05:05:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/21 "2015-02-11T20:00:57Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No, I don’t. I’m not much of a baseball fan and even less of a fan of riddle games. Were you implying that the decision was somehow racist?

Up to you.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/22 "2015-02-11T20:02:40Z")

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I assume the pitcher you’re referring to is Danny Almonte? Use your words, **Little\_Pig**. What are you trying to say?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/23 "2015-02-11T20:11:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Up to you.

No, it’s up to you. If I knew what you meant I wouldn’t have had to ask. Were you implying that racism was somehow behind the Little League decision?

If you feel it was, why won’t you just say so?

If you feel it wasn’t, why won’t you say so?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/24 "2015-02-11T21:05:14Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Another all black team gets [bounced.](http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/360737/jackie-robinson-west-title-vacated)

The other two teams that got “bounced” were from the Phillipines and the other was a Puerto Rican/Hispanic team from the Bronx.

“All Black”???

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/25 "2015-02-11T21:07:59Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> The other two teams that got “bounced” were from the Phillipines and the other was a Puerto Rican/Hispanic team from the Bronx.
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> “All Black”???

nm

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/26 "2015-02-11T22:47:16Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Mark my words: they will win the championship. The big one. The whole enchilada. That trophy is coming home to Vegas, baby!..
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> …I’m looking forward to Las Vegas beating Chicago again …

> [@bobot](#):
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> Good luck with that. 😃

OK, it’s a draw.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/27 "2015-02-13T21:06:08Z")

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[Here](http://www.cbs46.com/story/26195315/peachtree-city-little-league-team-stripped-of-state-championship) is a story of an almost all-white team that got bounced for cheating (in this case, it was caught before the LLWS, so they didn’t get to participate at all after winning their state championship on the field). It’s disappointing to me that so many, including many of the parents of the JRW kids, are charging racism. Fortunately, the sample size is too small to judge whether minority teams are more likely to face this sort of punishment, but at least we know that not ALL the teams that have been punished are poor or minority. More importantly, it seems clear that the JRW coaches did knowingly violate the rules, so for them to portray themselves as victims…well, it doesn’t give you much faith that these kids have good adult role models.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/28 "2015-02-13T21:19:43Z")

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The racism charge is asinine. I mean, does Jesse Jackson think that racism has just been boiling within Little League officials over the last 6 months, searching for some excuse to strip those kids of the title?

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/29 "2015-02-13T21:22:24Z")

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Right, because they just couldn’t stand how these kids became a big national story and earned heaps of money for their organization (indirectly, by driving up the potential value of future TV contracts).

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/las-vegas-will-win-the-llws-this-year/696172/30 "2015-02-14T00:51:55Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> [Here](http://www.cbs46.com/story/26195315/peachtree-city-little-league-team-stripped-of-state-championship) is a story of an almost all-white team that got bounced for cheating (in this case, it was caught before the LLWS, so they didn’t get to participate at all after winning their state championship on the field).

I’m trying to understand what rule the league broke. Was it that one of the teams in its league had 12 12-year-olds, and each team is only allowed 8? What if there are so many 12-year-olds in that league that they can’t fit just 8 per team and still stick to the other limits?

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