# Last Hobbit movie done, so are the Tolkien LOTR universe movies pretty much over at this point? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 28, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385 "2014-12-28T22:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/61 "2014-12-30T21:49:51Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I wasn’t really all that crazy about the last Hobbit film but I’d be okay with a movie that was just two hours of Lee Pace as Thranduil in his fancy clothes eye-fucking the camera. I don’t suppose I could get anyone else onboard for that, though. Out of his fancy clothes might be nice, too. The Elfin Kree Pieman is A-OK to me… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/62 "2014-12-30T21:53:22Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Out of his fancy clothes might be nice, too. The Elfin Kree Pieman is A-OK to me… Yeah, I realized after I posted that the clothes weren’t really necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/63 "2014-12-31T01:38:03Z")
I don’t mind the way Peter Jackson depicted Radagast. I mind that he depicted him at all. The movies didn’t need him, as evidenced by the fact that the book didn’t, and the fact that the book was split into three movies is clear evidence that filler wasn’t necessary. Add filler to your original source to expand it out to a couple of hours if necessary: That’s fine. Split up your original source into multiple movies if it’s too long as-is: That’s also fine. But don’t go and do both at once. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/64 "2014-12-31T20:55:47Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > The next Tolkien film I want to see is a good fan edit of all three Hobbit films cut down to match the book. No more than three hours. Sign me up! I’d love to see the trilogy squeezed down to something much closer to the book. First to be cut: the interminable running around by the Dwarves in Erebor in the second movie, including Thorin running across the jaws of Smaug. :: shudder :: > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I was just reading an interview in which Jackson expressed interest in doing a film version of the Iliad. So he may be done with Tolkien. He’s also said to be interested in a remake of the British WWII RAF drama _The Dam Busters_, and another _Tintin_ movie. > [@dracoi](#): > > I don’t see a problem with it, you just have to think of the Silmarilion as a collection of smaller stories, not as one single coherent story. > > Some examples that would work nicely: > > - Feanor vs Morgoth: creation of silmarils, their theft, eventual defeat of Morgoth. > - Beren and Luthien: a romance, including their imprisonment, escape and theft of a Silmaril > - The First Ring War: Isildur gets the ring, beats Sauron, refuses to destroy it. (Partially told already in the LOTR movies). Agreed. I’d love to see a movie of the rise and fall of Numenor, as well. The last scene, of course, would be Elendil and his sons sailing east to Middle-earth with a seedling of the White Tree. If not live action, I’ve long thought that all or part of _The Silmarillion_ would lend itself to a Pixar-style animated movie. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/65 "2014-12-31T22:54:22Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Regal? _“Radagast the Bird-tamer! Radagast the Simple! Radagast the Fool! Yet he had just the wit to play the part that I set him.”_ ― Saruman. Thus Saruman when he had descended far into the Shadow, but that’s not to say his view would be shared by all or even by many. Being held in contempt by Saruman, at that time, was on a par with being held in contempt by Sauron himself. The Wise, and maybe the common folk, saw things a little different. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/66 "2015-01-01T00:51:35Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > It looks like I am unique in being a Tolkien nerd who isn’t upset by PJ’s depiction of Radagast. I might have done it differently but I didn’t have any problems with it. Considering me and my friend used to call him “Rad! I Gassed! the Brown” when we were getting into the books back in the 80’s, the depiction Jackson uses doesn’t seem too bad. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/67 "2015-01-02T06:15:58Z")
> [@FasterThanMeerkats](#): > > +1 to this. The current movie makes Rankin-Bass even more impressive. It’s over 35 years old and has less than 1/4th the run time of the trilogy, yet the characters are far more developed, the plot is almost directly from the book (despite leaving out Beorn and maybe the Arkenstone), and it has the better Smaug voiceover and a better Gandalf portrayal. > > Theaters should just start showing it in protest of PJ. Every time I start to take the fanboy arguments seriously, I read something like this. Even if I were grant that you are correct in all your observations, the idea that theaters should show a pretty cheap looking Rankin Bass cartoon as a “protest” just cracks me up. You take this stiff far too seriously. Yeah, I know, it’s a “joke” or “hyperbole”, but it really isn’t, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/68 "2015-01-02T17:48:07Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Regal? _“Radagast the Bird-tamer! Radagast the Simple! Radagast the Fool! Yet he had just the wit to play the part that I set him.”_ ― Saruman. Sauruman, at this point, is a notoriously poor judge of character, and would have regarded any wizard who ‘bothered’ talking to animals as simple and a fool, regardless of their actual merits. ---
**Author:** ![archer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@archer\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archer_1)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/69 "2015-01-02T19:57:57Z")
Glad it’s almost over. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/70 "2015-01-02T23:30:31Z")
I’d like to see a good take on the Kalevala or Norse mythology. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/71 "2015-01-03T00:27:43Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I’d like to see a good take on the Kalevala or Norse mythology. No love for [url=“[The Day the Earth Froze (1959) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053240/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)”]The Day the Earth Froze[/irl]? 😕 A true classic, else it would never have been given the MST3K treatment! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/72 "2015-01-03T01:48:21Z")
I think that by that point, Saruman would have judged anyone who wasn’t Saruman as a simpleton and a fool, regardless of whom they talked to. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/73 "2015-01-03T09:51:04Z")
Having pushed on to the market the complete contents of his old man’s wastepaper basket Christopher Tolkien has little room to complain of any disservice by Jackson to JRR’s memory. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385/74 "2015-01-03T10:22:15Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > No love for [The Day the Earth Froze](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053240/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)? 😕 (fixed link) I did say _good take_. 🙂 Though I’ll settle for a Hollywood blockbuster take. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-hobbit-movie-done-so-are-the-tolkien-lotr-universe-movies-pretty-much-over-at-this-point/708385.md?page=3)