# Last time a crime was committed with a muzzle-loading rifle?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [January 2, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544 "2009-01-02T03:03:08Z")
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### Author: ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/1 "2009-01-02T03:03:08Z")

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Subject says it all, inspired by a post in another thread.

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### Author: ![Zygomide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zygomide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zygomide)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/2 "2009-01-02T03:13:30Z")

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I’ve tried some google-fu on this subject, but to no avail. There was a case of someone being arrested for bringing a gun to St. Johns in NY on sept. 26, 2007, where the gun was originally reported to be muzzle-loading. The confusion was caused by the fact that it was black-powder, though it was actually a breech loader. Here is the article- [http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/armed-man-arrested-at-st-johns/](http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/armed-man-arrested-at-st-johns/)

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### Author: ![mks57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@mks57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mks57)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/3 "2009-01-02T03:15:10Z")

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Probably hunting without a license, recently.

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### Author: ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/4 "2009-01-02T03:21:15Z")

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Amendment to OP:  
Let’s say “crimes against property or persons” in the spirit of the previous thread.

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### Author: ![ChrisBooth12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@ChrisBooth12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisBooth12)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/5 "2009-01-02T03:34:31Z")

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All the time i would think. I work at Starbucks and talk to a lot of cops who come in. One time they got a call and had to run out. They came back an hour later to get the drinks they never got. We asked what happened. Apparently some guy dressed as a pirate with a muzzle loading rifle was screaming at people in a parking lot…

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### Author: ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/6 "2009-01-02T03:56:38Z")

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[October 26 2008](http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:4ksWXpn_1zYJ:www.delawareonline.com/article/20081026/NEWS/810260324/1006+musket+felony&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a)

If an accidental shooting counts

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> According to witnesses, Lord was raising his arm in victory when a musket ball ripped into him. “I felt like I got hit in the shoulder with a baseball bat,” Lord told The Daily Press of Newport News. He declined interviews with AP, citing the investigation.
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> Phelps said the shooter could face a misdemeanor charge of reckless handling of a firearm up to a felony – malicious wounding.

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### Author: ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/7 "2009-01-02T03:58:57Z")

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I like that one:  
“A battle re-enactment last month pushed realism to the limits: a retired New York City police officer portraying a Union soldier for a documentary film was shot in the shoulder, possibly by a Confederate re-enactor”

We could almost call that the most recent casualty of war due to muzzle-loading weapon fire…

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### Author: ![Madgolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Madgolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madgolf)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/8 "2009-01-02T07:43:56Z")

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Since I live in Massachusetts, I could lay my Schuetzen on this table without putting a trigger lock on and go and walk one step beyond the end of my driveway … for the win!!

But that would be illegal.

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### Author: ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/9 "2009-01-02T09:19:39Z")

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An elderly man (and gun collector) shot at a fireman with such a pistol in a Paris suburb a couple weeks ago. The fireman was not wounded, though.  
The firemen were in the process of evacuating the building. The man’s excuse was that he had mistaken the fireman for his (female) neighbour :dubious: 😕  
He was sent to an hospital for a psychiatric evaluation.

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### Author: ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-time-a-crime-was-committed-with-a-muzzle-loading-rifle/479544/10 "2009-01-02T12:19:54Z")

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Looks like clairobscur may have it.  
“I thought it was my neighbor…”

Gotta’ love cranky old men, though less so when cranky lines up with homicidal…
