# Last war or armed revolution with a largely positive outcome.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [September 2, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256 "2014-09-02T15:46:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/21 "2014-09-02T21:58:21Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> I suppose the Falklands conflict counts. The outcome worked out better for both the Falklanders and the Argentinians.

How did it work out better for the Argentinians?

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### Author: ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/22 "2014-09-02T22:09:22Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> However if we hadn’t intervened we wouldn’t have had to live through the hell that was Gangnam Style.

I have directed the Catering Department to cut your cheesecake allotment by 2/3.

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### Author: ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/23 "2014-09-02T22:11:15Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I have directed the Catering Department to cut your cheesecake allotment by 2/3.

Damn you.

Don’t like cheesecake hope he doesn’t notice.

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### Author: ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/24 "2014-09-02T22:21:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> How did it work out better for the Argentinians?

Well, apart from all the conscripts who didn’t live to see it, it helped cause the fall of a particularly unsavoury fascist military junta, and the transition to civilian government. Argentina, I think, was better off after the transition.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/25 "2014-09-03T02:06:49Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Well, apart from all the conscripts who didn’t live to see it, it helped cause the fall of a particularly unsavoury fascist military junta, and the transition to civilian government. Argentina, I think, was better off after the transition.

They still seem to think that they should own the Falklands, despite it being occupied by Britons. Was the Olympic commercial of the Argentine guy dancing on a British War Memorial after the fall of the particularly unsavory fascist? 🙂

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### Author: ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/26 "2014-09-04T01:48:01Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> I know Skald will disagree with me, but in Iraq, we left a tyrant in power. We had literally the entire world with us, the chance to free the Iraqi people, and passed it up.

And that freedom has worked out so well for them!

In retrospect, not taking out Sadaam in 91 was probably the best idea ever. Kuwait was free and Iraq ceased to be a regional threat. While having a dictator in power isn’t ideal, I think it’s a lot better than becoming a failed state or decades of sectarian violence.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/27 "2014-09-04T02:21:26Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> And that freedom has worked out so well for them!
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> In retrospect, not taking out Sadaam in 91 was probably the best idea ever. Kuwait was free and Iraq ceased to be a regional threat. While having a dictator in power isn’t ideal, I think it’s a lot better than becoming a failed state or decades of sectarian violence.

But he tried to kill Bush’s Dad!  
:rolleyes:

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### Author: ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/28 "2014-09-04T02:33:57Z")

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We had an armed revolution that had an OK outcome. Republic Of Ireland still ticking along desperately 90+ years later.

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### Author: ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/29 "2014-09-04T16:10:07Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> And that freedom has worked out so well for them!
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> In retrospect, not taking out Sadaam in 91 was probably the best idea ever. Kuwait was free and Iraq ceased to be a regional threat. While having a dictator in power isn’t ideal, I think it’s a lot better than becoming a failed state or decades of sectarian violence.

Quoted for truth. Bush Senior was a better president than he generally gets credit for, and the best decision he ever made was, when asked to authorize a march to Baghdad, saying “Oh, hell no. Fuck that shit.”

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### Author: ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/last-war-or-armed-revolution-with-a-largely-positive-outcome/697256/30 "2014-09-04T16:58:05Z")

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Since the baseball player led the overthrow of the dictator, that country has been reasonably stable for over half a century. Yes, some people have fled across the sea on milk cartons, but there has not been enough truly cohesive internal unrest such that one could call the revolution anything other than successful, perhaps even somehow instructive.

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