# Late October 2012 Botticelli **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 17, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026 "2012-10-17T16:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/201 "2012-11-05T21:38:28Z")
Was thinking Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire was in _Seabiscuit_) DQ: Did the movies win any Oscars? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/202 "2012-11-05T22:14:25Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Did you tell Laura you loved her in octaves and sestets? > > IQ2: Do guitarists revere you as ‘The Wizard of Waukesha’? > > IQ3: Were you a renowned ‘Virtuoso’ of the solo jazz guitar? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the first. And just guessing… no, I’m not Phil Fender or Pablo Casals? #1 - is **Petrarch**. He wrote most of his sonnets in praise of Laura, and, of course, the Petrarchan Sonnet is written as an octave and a sestet. #2 - I’m very sorry, Fender of Fender Guitars was Leo Fender. I was after someone who is from the town of Waukesha, Wisconsin, who tried to sell his design for an electric guitar to Fender, only to be rejected and become a huge success with Gibson. The one and only Lester Polfus, better known as **Les Paul**. #3 - is **Joe Pass** , many of whose recordings for Pablo Records were named ‘Virtuoso’. (There was a Virtuoso in New York, Virtuoso 4, presumably a Virtuoso 3 though I don’t have that one…) Before I ask a DQ, may I ask for a clarification of a previous answer? Does your answer of ‘Crime fighter’ for number 13 include characters who would normally be described as ‘detectives’, ‘policemen’ and/or ‘superheroes’? I’m not sure if I should use a precious DQ to clarify what you feel has already been made clear… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/203 "2012-11-06T04:28:39Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Was thinking Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire was in _Seabiscuit_) > > DQ: Did the movies win any Oscars? Peter Parker was already an answer for post #191. Sorry, no DQ again. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > …Before I ask a DQ, may I ask for a clarification of a previous answer? Does your answer of ‘Crime fighter’ for number 13 include characters who would normally be described as ‘detectives’, ‘policemen’ and/or ‘superheroes’? I’m not sure if I should use a precious DQ to clarify what you feel has already been made clear… I think that’s the kind of clarification you’d have to use a DQ for. There are many different kinds of crimefighter, as you say. P. 1. Not real 2. Male 3. Living 4. American 5. Not known for his contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game 6. First appeared in a film or cartoon 7. Not a military or political figure 8. First name begins with P 9. Appeared in a live action feature 10. Born before 1950 11. Appeared in more than one film 12. Not a scientist or inventor 13. Crime fighter 14. Not a secret identity ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/204 "2012-11-06T13:30:05Z")
Fair enough; ye cannae blame me for trying. DQ1: Are you a private investigator/detective? I’ll reserve my other two DQs for the nonce. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/205 "2012-11-06T18:52:46Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Fair enough; ye cannae blame me for trying. > > DQ1: Are you a private investigator/detective? > > I’ll reserve my other two DQs for the nonce. Do you mean a private investigator/[private] detective? Or a private investigator/[police] detective? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/206 "2012-11-06T18:58:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Do you mean a private investigator/[private] detective? > > Or a private investigator/[police] detective? Private investigator/Private detective was what I intended. (As opposed to someone associated with a Police Force or Federal Law Enforcement agency such as the FBI.) Many thanks for double-checking; the latter option would not necessarily narrow it down as much as I would hope. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/207 "2012-11-07T01:27:20Z")
Roger that. P. 1. Not real 2. Male 3. Living 4. American 5. Not known for his contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game 6. First appeared in a film or cartoon 7. Not a military or political figure 8. First name begins with P 9. Appeared in a live action feature 10. Born before 1950 11. Appeared in more than one film 12. Not a scientist or inventor 13. Crime fighter 14. Not a secret identity 15. Not a private investigator/private detective ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/208 "2012-11-07T15:01:58Z")
DQ2: Are you a member of a municipal, state or federal law enforcement agency? DQ3: Was the film in which you first appeared released before 1980? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/209 "2012-11-07T18:48:05Z")
IQ1: Did Charles Bronson play you in the _Death Wish_ series of films? IQ2: Did Reginald VelJohnson play you in two _Die Hard_ films? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/210 "2012-11-07T19:32:21Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: Did Charles Bronson play you in the _Death Wish_ series of films? > > IQ2: Did Reginald VelJohnson play you in two _Die Hard_ films? Dunno the name of Bronson’s character. The second was the plump black cop, right? Don’t remember his name, either. Take two DQs. P. 1. Not real 2. Male 3. Living 4. American 5. Not known for his contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game 6. First appeared in a film or cartoon 7. Not a military or political figure 8. First name begins with P 9. Appeared in a live action feature 10. Born before 1950 11. Appeared in more than one film 12. Not a scientist or inventor 13. Crime fighter 14. Not a secret identity 15. Not a private investigator/private detective 16. A member of a municipal, state or federal law enforcement agency 17. Film released before 1980 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/211 "2012-11-08T06:43:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the name of Bronson’s character. The second was the plump black cop, right? Don’t remember his name, either. Take two DQs. Bronson’s character was Paul Kersey. The cop was Al Powell. I’ll reserve these DQs for now. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/212 "2012-11-10T17:04:14Z")
IQ1: Are you known for your ‘weighty’ cantos? IQ2: Did Nobody blind you? IQ3: When you finally got be a judge (in preparation for the governorship of the island you had long been promised), did you astound everyone with your wisdom? Side talk - Okay, ‘first appeared in film’ stumps me more than a little. I know detective fiction fairly well, but I can’t come up with a cop, agent or state trooper yet that might have been in a pre-1980 film. Smokey & the Bandit, maybe? Every Which Way but Loose? I can’t remember their names at all, let alone their first names. Would it be worth trying to narrow down the city/part of the country? I think specific agency will take too long - we’ve only got three questions left… Opinions and ideas welcomed!!! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/213 "2012-11-10T17:29:56Z")
Appearing in more than one film makes it tough, too - there can’t be too many multi-film series that started before 1980. It wouldn’t have been Jaws (Martin Brodie), Star Wars (no Americans), or the Godfather (the only cop I remember gets killed in the first movive) … was there a recurring American cop in any Bond films? Superman? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/214 "2012-11-11T04:57:57Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you known for your ‘weighty’ cantos? > > IQ2: Did Nobody blind you? > > IQ3: When you finally got be a judge (in preparation for the governorship of the island you had long been promised), did you astound everyone with your wisdom?.. Dunno the first. No, I’m not the Cyclops… Polyphemus? I’m not Prospero either. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/215 "2012-11-12T07:20:21Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > was there a recurring American cop in any Bond films? There was CIA agent Felix Leiter (no ‘P’). There was also the good old boy sheriff in the first 2 Roger Moore films (major character in Live and Let Die, quick cameo in Man With the Golden Gun), but I don’t remember the character’s name. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/216 "2012-11-14T21:24:12Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > There was CIA agent Felix Leiter (no ‘P’). There was also the good old boy sheriff in the first 2 Roger Moore films (major character in Live and Let Die, quick cameo in Man With the Golden Gun), but I don’t remember the character’s name. No, I realized I couldn’t remember it either. But I do remember what he said in his cameo: “Hey, I know you! You’re that English secret agent fella from England!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/217 "2012-11-15T04:05:35Z")
Any other IQs or DQs? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/218 "2012-11-15T21:34:11Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you known for your ‘weighty’ cantos? > > IQ2: Did Nobody blind you? > > IQ3: When you finally got be a judge (in preparation for the governorship of the island you had long been promised), did you astound everyone with your wisdom? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the first. > No, I’m not the Cyclops… Polyphemus? > I’m not Prospero either. Polyphemus, indeed. #1. is a punning reference to **Ezra Pound**. #3. I’m afraid Prospero was never a judge, nor had he been promised the governorship of an island - his arrival on the isle was due to the kindness of Gonzalo and the fortunes of the waves. If Antonio had had his way, Prospero and Miranda would have drowned. I was after **Sancho Panza** , who is forever harping on about the governorship of an island that Don Quixote has promised. In the second book of ‘Don Quixote’, Sancho is made a judge, and all are amazed at the Solomon-like qualities of his pronouncements. That being said, I have two DQs and I have no idea what to do with them. If the team will forgive me a ‘Hail Mary’ kind of question… DQ - Are you a title character in any of your films? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/219 "2012-11-15T22:35:04Z")
IQ - In a recent film, does Tony Stark say that your first name is ‘Agent’? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/220 "2012-11-16T00:38:04Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ - In a recent film, does Tony Stark say that your first name is ‘Agent’? Not Agt. Phil Coulson of SHIELD. P. 1. Not real 2. Male 3. Living 4. American 5. Not known for his contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game 6. First appeared in a film or cartoon 7. Not a military or political figure 8. First name begins with P 9. Appeared in a live action feature 10. Born before 1950 11. Appeared in more than one film 12. Not a scientist or inventor 13. Crime fighter 14. Not a secret identity 15. Not a private investigator/private detective 16. A member of a municipal, state or federal law enforcement agency 17. Film released before 1980 18. Not a title character in any of his films [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026.md?page=12)