# Late October 2012 Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 17, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026 "2012-10-17T16:35:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/21 "2012-10-18T16:49:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you the youngest (and IMHO hawtest) of the three Crawley sisters?  
> Were you appointed to a top job by a President of one party, but promoted by a President of another?  
> Were you a top carrier admiral of WWII?

Yes, from _Downton Abbey_, Lady Sybil Crawley: [http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31800000/Lady-Sybil-Crawley-the-crawley-sisters-31850306-1418-945.jpg](http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31800000/Lady-Sybil-Crawley-the-crawley-sisters-31850306-1418-945.jpg)  
Souter was not promoted by another President. Harlan Stone was appointed to the Supreme Court by Coolidge, a Republican, then named Chief Justice of the United States by FDR, a Democrat.  
Yes, Raymond Spruance, victor at Midway.

DQs:

American?  
Last name start with S?

IQs:

Were you the top dude in _Dune_, at least at first?  
Did a law professor from Cleveland advise those who prosecuted you?  
Did a British cop repeatedly deny he was you?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/22 "2012-10-18T16:56:33Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a gravel-voiced singer-songwriter?
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> IQ2: Are you a musical collaborator of Berthold Brecht’s?
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> IQ3: Are you a contemporary ‘Classical’ composer who was shot by accident by an American soldier near the end of World War II?

These were **Tom Waits, Kurt Weill and Anton Webern** , respectively.

IQ1: Did you cause much speculation about your private life by famously bequeathing your second-best bed to your wife in your will?

IQ2: Did you claim the riot caused by the premiere of your ballet was actually caused by an intimate hand gesture in the choreography?

IQ3: Did you answer ‘Speak, for thy servant heareth.’?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/23 "2012-10-19T01:43:00Z")

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The letter S. I am:

1. Male
2. Not real
3. Not American
4. Last name starts with S

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Was the actor best known for playing you paralyzed in an equestrian accident?

I’m not Superman.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you the top dude in _Dune_, at least at first?  
> Did a law professor from Cleveland advise those who prosecuted you?  
> Did a British cop repeatedly deny he was you?

I’m not Stilgar or OJ Simpson(?). Take a DQ or two, depending on Simpson.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Did you cause much speculation about your private life by famously bequeathing your second-best bed to your wife in your will?
> 
> IQ2: Did you claim the riot caused by the premiere of your ballet was actually caused by an intimate hand gesture in the choreography?
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> IQ3: Did you answer ‘Speak, for thy servant heareth.’?

I have no idea on 1 or 2. I’m not Samuel, but the only reason I know that is because I’ve missed this question before - apparently this isn’t the first time I’ve done S. Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/24 "2012-10-19T03:05:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you the top dude in _Dune_, at least at first?  
> Did a law professor from Cleveland advise those who prosecuted you?  
> Did a British cop repeatedly deny he was you?

This was the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. Stilgar was pretty far down the food chain from him.  
Prof. Michael Scharf (another S!) of CWRU Law advised the team prosecuting Saddam Hussein.  
Det. Gaskell of Scotland Yard insisted he was not Sir Philip bleedin’ Sydney:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/F-KQkZnwis0/hqdefault.jpg "Monty Python, Season 3, Episode 10 - 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-KQkZnwis0)

DQs:

European?  
First appeared since 1900?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Were you a British Admiralty official who got some important islands named after you?  
Did Christopher Walken play your character’s laconic husband?  
Were you played by an actress who’d won fame playing a dude?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/25 "2012-10-19T03:09:30Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Did you cause much speculation about your private life by famously bequeathing your second-best bed to your wife in your will?
> 
> IQ2: Did you claim the riot caused by the premiere of your ballet was actually caused by an intimate hand gesture in the choreography?
> 
> IQ3: Did you answer ‘Speak, for thy servant heareth.’?

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I have no idea on 1 or 2. I’m not Samuel, but the only reason I know that is because I’ve missed this question before - apparently this isn’t the first time I’ve done S. Take 2 DQs.

Right on Samuel; it may have been me that used that one before. I grow old, I grow old…

1. was **William Shakespeare**. The precise meaning of it has been debated for years - did he not like his wife? Was he gay? Did the 2nd best bed mean the comfy one that they slept in, as opposed to the fancy one that was reserved for guests? No one knows, but that hasn’t stopped a lot of ink and electrons flowing…

2. was **Igor Stravinsky** , and the ballet was ‘Le Sacre du Printemps’. Stravinsky blamed the riot on Njinsky’s choreography, while Njinsky blamed the music.

DQ1: Do you originally appear in a work of written literature?

DQ2: Are you European?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/26 "2012-10-19T05:09:15Z")

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IQ1: Were you accused of murdering your girlfriend in New York’s Chelsea Hotel in the late 1970s?

IQ2: Are you a character who appears in both _Uncle Tom’s Cabin_ and _The King and I_?

IQ3: Could you give us a little night music?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/27 "2012-10-20T17:18:41Z")

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The letter S. I am:

1. Male
2. Not real
3. Not American
4. Last name starts with S
5. European
6. First appeared after 1900
7. Did no first appear on a work of literature

**Le Ministre** , you can take another DQ since you duplicated one of **EH’s**.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you a British Admiralty official who got some important islands named after you?  
> Did Christopher Walken play your character’s laconic husband?  
> Were you played by an actress who’d won fame playing a dude?

I’m not Meryl Streep in the Deer Hunter. Take two more DQs.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Were you accused of murdering your girlfriend in New York’s Chelsea Hotel in the late 1970s?
> 
> IQ2: Are you a character who appears in both _Uncle Tom’s Cabin_ and _The King and I_?
> 
> IQ3: Could you give us a little night music?

I’m not Sid Vicious or Stephen Sondheim - take a DQ for the common character.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/28 "2012-10-20T17:19:42Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Right on Samuel; it may have been me that used that one before. I grow old, I grow old…
> 
> [snip]
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> 1. was **Igor Stravinsky** , and the ballet was ‘Le Sacre du Printemps’. Stravinsky blamed the riot on Njinsky’s choreography, while Njinsky blamed the music.

Now I remember - I was Igor Sikorsky before!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/29 "2012-10-20T18:06:31Z")

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Very well - DQ: Did you first appear in a film?

Back with some more IQs after I get some groceries…

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/30 "2012-10-20T18:21:33Z")

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The letter S. I am:

1. Male
2. Not real
3. Not American
4. Last name starts with S
5. European
6. First appeared after 1900
7. Did no first appear on a work of literature
8. First appeared in a film

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/31 "2012-10-20T19:28:02Z")

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IQ1: Did you learn to quit worrying and love the bomb?  
IQ2: Was your name also that of a character of a female detective on a popular crime show that was cancelled in 2009?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/32 "2012-10-20T20:12:25Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> IQ1: Did you learn to quit worrying and love the bomb?  
> IQ2: Was your name also that of a character of a female detective on a popular crime show that was cancelled in 2009?

I assume IQ 2 is referring to Law and Order, but I’m not sure who. It really doesn’t matter, because I am in fact **Dr. Strangelove**.

Congratulations, **MissTake**!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/33 "2012-10-20T20:47:04Z")

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Well done, **MissTake**!

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/34 "2012-10-21T00:36:03Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I assume IQ 2 is referring to Law and Order, but I’m not sure who. It really doesn’t matter, because I am in fact **Dr. Strangelove**.
> 
> Congratulations, **MissTake**!

Whee!  
(Sam Spade was the second one. On Without a Trace there was a character named Samantha Spade)

**The next letter is B**

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/35 "2012-10-21T00:53:16Z")

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Way to go, **MissTake**!

From the last round:

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
> 
> Were you a British Admiralty official who got some important islands named after you?  
> Did Christopher Walken play your character’s laconic husband?  
> Were you played by an actress who’d won fame playing a dude?

The Earl of Sandwich and the eventual Hawaii.  
_Sarah, Plain and Tall_, played by Glenn Close.  
I was thinking of the Shadout Mapes, also in _Dune_, played by Linda Hunt, who won an Oscar for playing an Indonesian man in _The Year of Living Dangerously_. (When did Meryl Streep ever play a dude?)

On to B.

IQs:

Are you an sf writer perhaps best known for _Enemy Mine_?  
Did you play a retro dad and a more recent priest?  
Did your parents die in a boating accident?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/36 "2012-10-21T02:03:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:  
> Are you an sf writer perhaps best known for _Enemy Mine_?  
> Did you play a retro dad and a more recent priest?  
> Did your parents die in a boating accident?

I am not Barry Longyear  
DQ the other two

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/37 "2012-10-21T02:15:22Z")

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Wow … “S” went by so quickly. So we’re on to B now? Okay:

IQ1: Did you propose to Janet Weiss in a musical?

IQ2: Do you and your brother Wally have parents named June and Ward?

IQ3: Were you a colour commentator on _Monday Night Football_ in the late 1990s?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/38 "2012-10-21T02:43:12Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Did you propose to Janet Weiss in a musical?  
> IQ2: Do you and your brother Wally have parents named June and Ward?  
> IQ3: Were you a colour commentator on _Monday Night Football_ in the late 1990s?

I am not Brad Majors  
I am not The Beaver  
DQ

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/39 "2012-10-21T02:48:03Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did Christopher Walken play your character’s laconic husband?

I was thinking of Streep in _The Deer Hunter_ for this question, but after looking it up it appears they were engaged but not married.  
For B:  
IQ1: Are you the shortest man to ever play in the NBA?  
IQ2: Did your fame help to popularize the Arkansas toothpick?  
IQ3: Did you unsuccessfully lobby the mayor to close the beaches?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/40 "2012-10-21T03:18:12Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> I am not Brad Majors  
> I am not The Beaver  
> DQ

Correct on Brad Majors and the Beaver. The colour commentator was Boomer Esiason.

DQ: Does B begin your first name?

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