# Late October 2012 Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 17, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026 "2012-10-17T16:35:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/121 "2012-10-25T07:30:20Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a pint-sized baseball manager known for arguing vigorously with umpires?  
> IQ2: Did you carry your home state, and only your home state, in a presidential election?  
> IQ3: Did you hit the only home run of your 20+ year major league baseball career in your first plate appearance?

You’ve got me on all of these. Three DQs.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/122 "2012-10-25T07:38:27Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
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> Real?  
> Southerner?  
> Most famous for a single incident?

I am not real (i.e. I am fictional).  
I am not a Southerner.  
I am not most famous for a single incident.  
Summary for W:

1. Male
2. Alive (i.e. not dead)
3. American
4. Born before 1950
5. Last name starts with W
6. Not involved in the Arts, as usually defined in this game
7. Not an athlete (though I am athletic)
8. Not a politician
9. A scientist and inventor (though I myself am not known for accomplishments in those fields)
10. Not real (i.e. I am fictional)
11. Not a Southerner
12. Not most famous for a single incident

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> IQs:
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> Did you almost drown in a Swiss lake and later get hit by a NYC cab?  
> Did your boyfriend mistakenly think the press would leave you alone on a Mediterranean cruise?  
> Do you like taking pictures of your dogs, and have published many?

Three more DQs.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/123 "2012-10-25T12:29:06Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a pint-sized baseball manager known for arguing vigorously with umpires?  
> IQ2: Did you carry your home state, and only your home state, in a presidential election?  
> IQ3: Did you hit the only home run of your 20+ year major league baseball career in your first plate appearance?

1. [Earl Weaver](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ssx1hNSs4TI#t=39s) (youtube link)
2. Walter Mondale, who got 13 electoral votes against Reagan’s 525 in 1984
3. Pitcher Hoyt Wilhelm  
DQs:
4. Did you first appear in literature?
5. Have you ever appeared in film(s)?
6. Are you identified with a particular (real or fictional) location?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/124 "2012-10-25T12:30:07Z")

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IQ: Are you a Gotham philanthropist with a big secret?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/125 "2012-10-25T13:58:39Z")

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IQ1: Do you and your friends hang out at Stan Mikita Doughnuts?

IQ2: Is your visit to Dr. Bucke the subject of the film “Beautiful Dreamers”?

IQ3: Were you the organist and choirmaster at St. Mary Magdalene’s Anglican Church?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> I’m not Wayne of Wayne’s World, or Healey Willan (sp?). No idea about “Beautiful Dreamers”–DQ for you.

Quite right on 1 and 3. 2. is **Walt Whitman**. Whitman heard Dr. Bucke speak at the Smithsonian Institute, and was deeply impressed by Bucke’s views about the humane treatment of the mentally disabled. He came up to visit the asylum that Dr. Bucke ran in London, Ontario and stayed for several months. “Beautiful Dreamers” is an absolute gem of a film, by the way, with some great performances by Colm Feore, Tom McCamus, Colin Fox, Sheila McCarthy and a fantastic Walt Whitman done by Rip Torn.

Anyway…

DQ: Seeing as you are fictional, did you first appear in a work of literature (as opposed to film, TV or theatre.) ?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/126 "2012-10-25T17:15:03Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> 1. Did you first appear in literature?
> 2. Have you ever appeared in film(s)?
> 3. Are you identified with a particular (real or fictional) location?

> [@Le Ministre](#):
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> DQ: Seeing as you are fictional, did you first appear in a work of literature (as opposed to film, TV or theatre.) ?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. I won’t bother summarizing because…

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ: Are you a Gotham philanthropist with a big secret?

… I am indeed **Bruce Wayne** , millionaire philanthropist, resident of Gotham City, and the alter ego of Batman.

Well done, **Enginerd**!

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/127 "2012-10-26T01:10:03Z")

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Thanks, **Spoons**! I’ll get another round started early tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/128 "2012-10-26T02:57:17Z")

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Way to go!

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you almost drown in a Swiss lake and later get hit by a NYC cab?  
> Did your boyfriend mistakenly think the press would leave you alone on a Mediterranean cruise?  
> Do you like taking pictures of your dogs, and have published many?

'Twas Winston Churchill, Wallis Simpson, and William Wegman.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/129 "2012-10-26T12:50:40Z")

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Let’s do **M**.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/130 "2012-10-26T13:24:39Z")

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IQ1: Did you give a very famous rendition of “Happy Birthday”?  
IQ2: Were you blamed for the actions of two trenchcoated teens?  
IQ3: Have you died in every film and been portrayed by six people?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/131 "2012-10-26T13:43:21Z")

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I’m not Marilyn Monroe, Marilyn Manson, or Michael Myers (?). Take a DQ if Myers is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/132 "2012-10-26T13:47:54Z")

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IQ1: Did your mother invent Liquid Paper?

IQ2: Are you a non-relative, but still a part of a family that includes two psychiatrists and an ex-cop?

IQ3: In the movie _St. Elmo’s Fire_, did you play a character who “boffed the boss”?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/133 "2012-10-26T13:52:16Z")

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I’m not Mike Nesmith or Demi Moore. Take a family-style DQ for #2.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/134 "2012-10-26T17:41:58Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Mike Nesmith or Demi Moore. Take a family-style DQ for #2.

IQ2 was looking for Daphne Moon, from the Frasier TV show.

DQ: Are you real or fictional?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/135 "2012-10-26T19:44:39Z")

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The letter is M.

1. Real person.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/136 "2012-10-26T20:18:34Z")

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IQs:

Did Buck Henry and Mel Brooks create you?  
Are you a priestess of a fire god?  
Did you use a comb in an unusual way when you received a Tony?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/137 "2012-10-27T03:18:07Z")

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IQ1: Do crank phone calls really piss you off?

IQ2: Are you a pompous ass who is played by Stephen Fry?

IQ3: Are you the title character of a surreal self-referential film?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/138 "2012-10-27T03:37:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did Buck Henry and Mel Brooks create you?  
> Are you a priestess of a fire god?  
> Did you use a comb in an unusual way when you received a Tony?

I’m not Mongo from Blazing Saddles, Melisandre from a Clash of Kings, or Matthew Broderick. Mongo and Broderick are guesses, so take DQs if they’re off the mark.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Do crank phone calls really piss you off?
> 
> IQ2: Are you a pompous ass who is played by Stephen Fry?
> 
> IQ3: Are you the title character of a surreal self-referential film?

I’m not Moe Syszlak or John Malkovich - take a DQ for the Stephen Fry character.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/139 "2012-10-27T09:29:08Z")

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IQ1: Alice may not live here any more, but for whom did she end up working?

IQ2: Did you play a British superspy who lost his mojo at one point?

IQ3: Did your character provide lead vocals for the Fabulous Baker Boys?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/140 "2012-10-27T14:47:12Z")

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Not Mike Myers of Michelle Pfeiffer - take a DQ for Alice.

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