# Late October 2012 Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 17, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026 "2012-10-17T16:35:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/161 "2012-10-29T02:16:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Have your coreligionists repeatedly apologized for something you did?

I’ll rephrase:

Have your coreligionists repeatedly apologized for something you did more than 200 years ago?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/162 "2012-10-29T02:31:52Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the title character in the 1955 Best Picture Oscar winner?
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> IQ2: Did you shoot down 80 enemy aircraft in WWI?
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> IQ3: Did you play the manager of the Partridge Family?

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Manfred von Richthofen - no idea on the other two. 2 more DQs!

Correct on Manfred von Richtofen, better known as the Red Baron. The 1955 Best Picture was _Marty_ (Ernest Borgnine played Marty Piletti, the title character), and the Partridge Family’s manager was played by Dave Madden.

DQ: Are you known for a single incident?

I’ll reserve one DQ for now.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/163 "2012-10-29T03:30:37Z")

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I was going for Michael Medved.

DQ: Are you associated with a crime, as perpetrator or victim?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/164 "2012-10-29T12:52:11Z")

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The letter is M.

1. Real person.
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M
4. Not famous for achievements in the arts
5. American
6. Alive
7. Not known for a political or military role
8. Born before 1950
9. not an athlete.
10. Not a scientist or inventor
11. Not best known for a single incident
12. Associated with a crime, either as the perpetrator or victim

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ll rephrase:
> 
> Have your coreligionists repeatedly apologized for something you did more than 200 years ago?

Take another DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/165 "2012-10-29T14:10:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Have your coreligionists repeatedly apologized for something you did [more than 200 years ago]?  
> Have you played a stand-in, a doctor, and a reluctant adventurer?  
> Did you play a very evil person opposed by another character, played by your real-life husband?

Martin Luther. The Lutheran Church has, to its credit, acknowledged his virulent anti-Semitism and apologized for it.  
Martin Freeman, in _Love Actually, Sherlock_ and _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_ (and in the upcoming _Hobbit_ trilogy, come to think of it).  
Melissa Gilbert, appearing with then-hubby Bruce Boxleitner in _Babylon 5_.

DQ:

Are you a convicted criminal?

Three DQs reserved.

IQs:

Do you have a swastika tattooed on your face?  
Did you play Princess Irulan?  
Have you played an alien, a law enforcement officer, and a man with a strange relationship with his mom?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/166 "2012-10-29T14:41:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ:
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> Are you a convicted criminal?
> 
> Three DQs reserved.
> 
> IQs:
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> Do you have a swastika tattooed on your face?  
> Did you play Princess Irulan?  
> Have you played an alien, a law enforcement officer, and a man with a strange relationship with his mom?

Yep, a convicted criminal. I don’t know the answer to IQs 2 or 3, but that’s not important since the answer to #1 is “yes, I am **Charles Manson**.”

That’s a little creepy to type. Nice work!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/167 "2012-10-31T13:46:19Z")

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Thanks!

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:…
> 
> Did you play Princess Irulan?  
> Have you played an alien, a law enforcement officer, and a man with a strange relationship with his mom?

Virginia Madsen, in _Dune_.  
Kyle MacLachlan in _The Hidden, Twin Peaks_, and _Sex and the City_.

Next up:

P.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/168 "2012-10-31T19:35:00Z")

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IQ: Did Angelina Jolie steal your thunder by being named “best babysitter in Burlington”?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/169 "2012-10-31T20:01:53Z")

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I’m just realizing I never did tell you who the pompous ass played by Stephen Fry was. It was Melchett, who was a sycophant attached to Queen Elizabeth (I) in Blackadder II, and a pompous General in Blackadder Goes Forth.

P, you say…

IQ1: Did your understudy go on to fame as the captain of the Enterprise?

IQ2: Are you a Canadian jazz icon?

IQ3: Did you set Sir Isaac Newton onto the problem of probability?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/170 "2012-10-31T20:11:56Z")

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IQs:  
1: Do you owe Suzanne an apology for all the things you let slide right through your hands?  
2: Did you write Sinead O’Connor’s biggest U.S. hit?  
3: Did a sculpture of your head serve as a perch for a famous bird?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/171 "2012-10-31T20:16:28Z")

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IQ1: Are you not a geek, but a unique weasel?  
IQ2: Is your most famous picture the last one?  
IQ3: Are you married to a car?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/172 "2012-11-01T01:59:29Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did Angelina Jolie steal your thunder by being named “best babysitter in Burlington”?

Dunno who this is. Take one DQ.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> …P, you say…
> 
> IQ1: Did your understudy go on to fame as the captain of the Enterprise?
> 
> IQ2: Are you a Canadian jazz icon?
> 
> IQ3: Did you set Sir Isaac Newton onto the problem of probability?

I’m not Christopher Plummer. Dunno the other two - take two DQs!

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1: Do you owe Suzanne an apology for all the things you let slide right through your hands?  
> 2: Did you write Sinead O’Connor’s biggest U.S. hit?  
> 3: Did a sculpture of your head serve as a perch for a famous bird?

I’m not (sheer guesses ahead) Suzanne Pleshette, Prince or E.A. Poe…?

> [@MissTake](#):
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> IQ1: Are you not a geek, but a unique weasel?  
> IQ2: Is your most famous picture the last one?  
> IQ3: Are you married to a car?

Wow. Drawing a blank on all three. Ask away.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/173 "2012-11-01T02:14:53Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1: Do you owe Suzanne an apology for all the things you let slide right through your hands?  
> 2: Did you write Sinead O’Connor’s biggest U.S. hit?  
> 3: Did a sculpture of your head serve as a perch for a famous bird?

1. Peter Himmelman (it’s a line from [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKP03ybBFy4) song)
2. Prince is right - good guess!
3. Poe is close - the famous bird is his Raven, which “perched upon a bust of Pallas.”

DQ1: Are you real?  
DQ2: Male?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/174 "2012-11-01T02:46:06Z")

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Was thinking Amy Poehler

DQ: Living?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/175 "2012-11-01T02:56:00Z")

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> [@What's your morning routine?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-morning-routine/78947/25):
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> Wow. Drawing a blank on all three. Ask away.

1. Pauly Shore from _Encino Man_
2. Peter Bogdanovich
3. Paulina Porizkova, married to Rik Ocasek from The Cars

DQ1: American?  
DQ2: Known for your contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game?

One DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/176 "2012-11-01T03:01:37Z")

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You guys are good.

P.

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Living
4. American
5. Not known for his contributions to the Arts as usually defined in the game

Since this is not a real person, answer #3 is speculative - it is my best guess that he would probably be alive today. Opinions may differ, however.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/177 "2012-11-01T03:21:36Z")

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IQ1: Were you converted on the road to Damascus?

IQ2: When frustrated at work, do you often exclaim, “Great Caesar’s Ghost”?

IQ3: Originally from Canada, are you an actress and former Playmate known for your two large … ahem, “assets”?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/178 "2012-11-01T03:33:36Z")

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IQ: Did your creator invent the name of your female friend?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/179 "2012-11-01T03:43:06Z")

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IQ1: Did your fumble result in the Miracle at the Meadowlands?  
IQ2: Were you jailed for Contempt of Congress when you refused to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee?  
IQ3: Are you a politically conservative American businessman who’s nevertheless particularly interested in renewable energy?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-october-2012-botticelli/638026/180 "2012-11-01T11:53:50Z")

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Reserved DQ: Did you first appear in a film or cartoon (versus a book or comic book)?

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