# Late to the party: Terry Pratchett

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078 "2010-03-03T02:38:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Staver808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Staver808](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staver808)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/41 "2010-03-05T02:30:14Z")

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Also, the Discworld Cookbooks is a classic. My personal fav is Vetinari, followed closely by Vimes, Cohen and the Silver Horde (My skin is melting! No, no, we’ve talked about this and that’s dirt, remember?) and the witches (Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg)

The entry for bread and water as suggested by Vetinari always gets a chuckle. I’ve got to xerox it and pin it up.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/42 "2010-03-05T02:57:37Z")

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Okay, I have “Making Money” \*and \* “Night Watch” from the library, as when I went to pick up my first hold, I cruised the shelves and found the second.

I am not well, and won’t be going to work tomorrow, so it will be a day of tea, toast, and Terry tomorrow. Then I’m going to follow the PDF reading guide as best I can.

> [@Frank](#):
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> I’ve found to be more or less boring are _Moving Pictures_ and _Thud!_. Oddly enough, I have them still in my bookcase. Go figure.

(…and that reminds me. I was looking for “Going Postal” a few days ago, which I _know_ I bought, and started, abandoned, and now, can’t find anywhere. But in the search, I put aside a stack of books in the category: read once, probably won’t read again, don’t need to refer to. So I took them to the office for the lunch room. It’s so hard to part with books, but I’m going to try. Maybe someone else will read them. What do other people do with those categories of books?)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/43 "2010-03-05T03:17:25Z")

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> [@Staver808](#):
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> …but how is this series related to Maurice?

It’s a Young Adult novel set in Discworld. That’s about the only link. It’s not even necessarily set in the same era.

As opposed to the Nomes/Bromeliad trilogy, Johnny Maxwell trilogy, and _Nation_, young adult series _not_ set in Discworld.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/44 "2010-03-05T04:12:14Z")

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Looking at that reading guide, where might one find the short stories?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/45 "2010-03-05T05:05:09Z")

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They are there. Green boxes with dotted lines connecting them to the tapestry that is the Disc.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/46 "2010-03-05T05:53:31Z")

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No, I mean, I learned of their existence from that chart, and now I want to read them. Where might one find them?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/47 "2010-03-05T13:19:43Z")

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They’re in various anthology collections, like _The Flying Sorcerers_ and _Wizards of Odd_

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/48 "2010-03-05T14:56:41Z")

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[Theatre of Cruelty](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/theatre/theatre.html)

[Troll Bridge](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/trollbridge/trollbridge.html)

Turntables of the Night: [noparse][http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/turntables/turntables.html](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/turntables/turntables.html)][/noparse]

[Death and What Comes Next](http://www.lspace.org/books/dawcn/dawcn-english.html)

[The Sea and Little Fishes](http://www.instructables.com/file/FJMNGYMFROAGMBO/)

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/49 "2010-03-05T15:14:33Z")

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“Theatre of Cruelty” is in The Wizards of Odd (and maybe on-line)  
“The Sea and Little Fishes” is in Legends, Masters of Fantasy  
“Thud–A Historical Perspective” is available on-line at [www.thudgame.com](http://www.thudgame.com)  
“Troll Bridge” is in After the King, or The Oxford Book of Fantasy Stories, or The Mammoth Book of Comic Fantasy  
“A Collegiate Casting-Out Of Devilish Devices” is available on-line

And I can see **silenus** beat me to it.

Almost all Terry’s short stories, Discworld and other, are available in Once More with Footnotes\* (ISBN: 1886778574 hardcover…I’ve heard there’s a paperback but I’ve never seen it), and good luck finding a copy you can afford.

" the Discworld Cookbooks"–actually “Nanny Ogg’s Cookbook” is excellent.

The Yearbooks/Diaries have some amusing bits as well.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/50 "2010-03-05T15:22:19Z")

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As do the various Mapps and tourist guides.

Good lord! My copy of “Footnotes” is worth that much? I’m rich!

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/51 "2010-03-05T16:57:51Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> [Theatre of Cruelty](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/theatre/theatre.html)
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> [Troll Bridge](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/trollbridge/trollbridge.html)
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> [Turntables of the Night](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/turntables/turntables.html)
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> [Death and What Comes Next](http://www.lspace.org/books/dawcn/dawcn-english.html)
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> [The Sea and Little Fishes](http://www.instructables.com/file/FJMNGYMFROAGMBO/)

I’ve never seen those! Thanks so much for the links - “Troll Bridge” and “Death and What Comes Next” are classic Pratchett.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/52 "2010-03-07T02:39:59Z")

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> [@Staver808](#):
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> I crack up everytime I read the the line “King: Fool! [refering to the character that goes by the name Fool] Someone knocks without! Fool: Someone knocks with out what? King: Someone knocks without the door! Fool: Is this one of those zen things?” Even the books I didn’t like have these little gems in them. Makes me laugh all the time, and seeing as I’m reading a book at the time, also usually makes me look insane. Or at least that’s how I’ve interpreted the stares I’ve gotten before.

Minor obsessive compulsive fangirl nitpick: the scene actually took place with the Fool and a couple of other underlings- the porter and the cook, I believe.

> [@silenus](#):
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> [Turntables of the Night](http://members.fortunecity.com/bookdepository/stories/pratchett/turntables/turntables.html)

I’m getting an urgent message from my antivirus sytem telling me there are 15 computer threats and one identity threat.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/53 "2010-03-07T03:01:02Z")

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Huh. Nothing popped up for me at that site.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/54 "2010-03-07T03:26:22Z")

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I’ve broken the link pending an all-clear from someone who knows more about this shit than I do. The link is there, just not as a straight click from here.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/55 "2010-03-07T03:55:16Z")

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> [@Savannah](#):
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> … in the search, I put aside a stack of books in the category: read once, probably won’t read again, don’t need to refer to. … What do other people do with those categories of books?)

In the case of the Pratchett books, I’m keeping them so that they are still in my inventory and I don’t accidentally buy them again. Same with a few other books by prolific authors whose works I generally enjoy reading. (Those books simply don’t wind up on my nightstand, even at my most desperate for something to read while falling asleep.) Fiction that I will never read again, and that I don’t need to worry about buying again by mistake goes in the trash.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/56 "2010-03-07T03:58:48Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’ve broken the link pending an all-clear from someone who knows more about this shit than I do. The link is there, just not as a straight click from here.

I had no problems with the links, though there are ad screens before some of them. They’re not short stories, by the way, if anyone cares, they’re short-shorts - perhaps two printed pages at most.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/57 "2010-03-07T04:52:29Z")

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I’ve read a few Pratchett Discworld novels (Colour of Magic, Mort, Carpe Jugulum, Reaper Man, Soul Music, Monstrous Regiment, a few others I’ve forgotten) but for some reason, I never really had an interest in Hogfather, I mean, after all, it’s just a Christmas parody, meh…

How wrong I was, Hogfather is a _GREAT_ Discworld novel, especially because I’m a fan of Death, and find Susan Sto-Helit an intriguing character as well, this novel is just chock full of Death at his absolute best, his care and love of mortals, his wanting to be a part of the society of the Living, him trying to “fit in” and just not quite “getting it”, his strong sense of Honor, Loyalty and what is Right…

He’s arguably the most “real” character on the Disc, not bad for an Anthropomorphic Personification

Plus, it has Hex in it, how could you _not_ love Hex, oh and Wow-Wow Sauce as well, can’t get enough of that (especially when you need a condiment that doubles as a handy explosive)

All it needs is The Luggage to make a cameo

Plus, [this discussion betwean Death…err, the Hogfather and Albert](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwYCbBWxT8) always gets…dust…in my eyes.

\<Death touches the upper bulb of the Match Girl’s empty LifeTimer, some sand fills the upper bulb, the Match Girl gasps weakly, returning to life\>  
\<A\> You’re not allowed to do that…  
\<D\>THE HOGFATHER CAN, THE HOGFATHER BRINGS PRESENTS, THERE’S NO BETTER PRESENT THAN A FUTURE.

and another clip from the BBC live-action adaptation of The Hogfather; [around 9 minutes in, the sequence when Death confronts The Auditors](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDrF2OUDWq8&feature=related), his sense of rage towards the Auditors is palpable, and you don’t frak with Death, HE ALWAYS WINS!

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/58 "2010-03-07T19:00:18Z")

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Am currently in the middle of “Witches Abroad”. Enjoying it!

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/59 "2010-03-07T22:15:45Z")

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> [@Staver808](#):
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> While there have been books I haven’t liked by him (Eric), what I always enjoy is the descriptions and the dialog. His genius is in the little things, IMHO. I still chuckle when I think of the (forget his name) greatest mathamatician the world has even known, and he’s a camel.

From _Pyramids_. The camel is called “You Bastard”. Other camel names include “You Vicious Brute”, “Evil-Smelling Bugger” and “Bloody Stupid”, and the second of these has a particular mathematical method named after him. 😃

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/late-to-the-party-terry-pratchett/531078/60 "2010-03-07T23:36:55Z")

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Ye gods, I only just now got that. You’d think it be more obvious; I’ve certainly used that method often enough myself.

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