# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")

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[We did this two years ago and I thought we’d had enough of a break to maybe have another shot at it.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=830631) Very open to whatever, but let’s try to:

1. Not reuse puzzles from the old thread, which is not databased, but I hope you can do a search within. If it happens, it happens.

2. If you have heard it already, I would suggest we not blurt out the answer. Let’s give people a shot to solve it. No googling, obviously.

I’ll go first. Not sure how great this one is, but it should get us started.

\*\*A burglar is lifting two bars of gold, each so heavy he can not lift them above his waist. On the way out, he sees a security camera. With some very quick thinking, he disguises himself without putting down the gold bars. How?  
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/2 "2019-10-23T22:40:23Z")

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OK, no clue yet, but let’s have some questions to narrow things down a bit:

Does the disguise leave the gold bars visible?  
Does the disguise leave him looking human?  
Does the disguise leave him looking like someone who is authorized to move the gold bars?  
Does the process of disguising himself require the use of his hands?  
Would the disguise actually be effective versus the camera?  
Would the disguise actually be effective versus a human passerby?  
Would the disguise actually be effective against a guard?  
Is he stealing the bars of gold from a place where they were intended to be stored securely?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3 "2019-10-23T22:49:47Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, no clue yet, but let’s have some questions to narrow things down a bit:
> 
> Does the disguise leave the gold bars visible? YES  
> Does the disguise leave him looking human? YES  
> Does the disguise leave him looking like someone who is authorized to move the gold bars? NO  
> Does the process of disguising himself require the use of his hands? NO  
> Would the disguise actually be effective versus the camera? YES  
> Would the disguise actually be effective versus a human passerby? NO  
> Would the disguise actually be effective against a guard? NO  
> Is he stealing the bars of gold from a place where they were intended to be stored securely? YES

Answers in quote.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/4 "2019-10-24T00:37:03Z")

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Does the disguise:

change the appearance of the thief?  
distort the camera image?  
require the use of an item(s) not mentioned in the puzzle?

Is the normal appearance of the thief relevant?

Is the number of gold bars significant?

Does he smash the camera with a gold bar?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5 "2019-10-24T01:26:10Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Does the disguise:
> 
> change the appearance of the thief? YES  
> distort the camera image? NO  
> require the use of an item(s) not mentioned in the puzzle? YES
> 
> Is the normal appearance of the thief relevant? NO
> 
> Is the number of gold bars significant? NO
> 
> Does he smash the camera with a gold bar? NO

Answers up there.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/6 "2019-10-24T01:30:59Z")

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Does the disguise make it look like the gold bars are part of his clothing?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/7 "2019-10-24T01:32:30Z")

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Did the thief already have the additional item(s) on his person?

Would knowing the additional item(s) solve the puzzle?

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/8 "2019-10-24T01:34:52Z")

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Are they standard bars of gold with the same dimensions that we see in the movies?

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/9 "2019-10-24T01:49:48Z")

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OK He pulls his sweater over his head and down each arm so that the gold bars are covered, one in each hand. He is bent over from the weight so he twerks his way out past the camera. Not suspicious at all, just a guy twerkin’ it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/10 "2019-10-24T01:53:47Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Does the disguise make it look like the gold bars are part of his clothing?

NO

> [@Biotop](#):
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> Did the thief already have the additional item(s) on his person?
> 
> Would knowing the additional item(s) solve the puzzle?

YES and YES

> [@Isamu](#):
>
> Are they standard bars of gold with the same dimensions that we see in the movies?

YES

> [@Isamu](#):
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> OK He pulls his sweater over his head and down each arm so that the gold bars are covered, one in each hand. He is bent over from the weight so he twerks his way out past the camera. Not suspicious at all, just a guy twerkin’ it.

NO

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/11 "2019-10-24T01:56:18Z")

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Are the additional items usually used in cleaning?  
Are the additional items usually used in general maintainance?  
Are the additional items things that he used to lift the bars in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/12 "2019-10-24T02:35:18Z")

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Are the additional items already on his person?

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**Author:** ![steepone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@steepone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steepone)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/13 "2019-10-24T03:25:56Z")

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Does he need the disguise to get out of the building or just to prevent being recognized afterwards?

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/14 "2019-10-24T04:11:28Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Are the additional items usually used in cleaning?

Maybe you got it. A bit of soapy water and some rags and he could just be cleaning the floor with the gold bricks hidden under the rags.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/15 "2019-10-24T10:57:31Z")

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A previous answer did say that the bricks were still visible though.

Here’s a specific guess - the thief used a pallet lifter to pick up the heavy gold bars, then turned them point-on to the camera so they seem like headlights

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/16 "2019-10-24T12:08:25Z")

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Use shoelaces to tie bricks to bottom of shoes?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/17 "2019-10-24T13:58:55Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Are the additional items usually used in cleaning?  
> Are the additional items usually used in general maintainance?  
> Are the additional items things that he used to lift the bars in the first place?

1. NO
2. NO
3. NO

> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Are the additional items already on his person?

YES

> [@steepone](#):
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> Does he need the disguise to get out of the building or just to prevent being recognized afterwards?

I’m not sure what you mean.

> [@Isamu](#):
>
> Maybe you got it. A bit of soapy water and some rags and he could just be cleaning the floor with the gold bricks hidden under the rags.

NO

> [@Aspidistra](#):
>
> A previous answer did say that the bricks were still visible though.
> 
> Here’s a specific guess - the thief used a pallet lifter to pick up the heavy gold bars, then turned them point-on to the camera so they seem like headlights

NO

> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
>
> Use shoelaces to tie bricks to bottom of shoes?

NO

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/18 "2019-10-24T14:00:02Z")

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> [@steepone](#):
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> Does he need the disguise to get out of the building or just to prevent being recognized afterwards?

I’ll just answer as I get it.

Does he need a disguise to get out?

NO

Does he need a disguise to prevent recognition?

YES

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/19 "2019-10-24T15:30:36Z")

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Is it additional “item”? Or “items” ?

Was the item(s) part of the thief’s clothing?  
Was the item(s) carried in the thief’s pocket?  
Was the item(s) an accessory like a watch or earrings?  
Is the sex of the thief relevant?  
Was the item(s) brought along to help with the crime?  
Does the location of the crime matter?  
Does it matter that gold bricks were being stolen as opposed to something else heavy?

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/20 "2019-10-24T17:01:24Z")

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Guess- He’s wearing a welder’s mask on his head and he quickly flicks it down by nodding his head.

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