# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 166
**Author:** ![kk\_fusion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kk_fusion/32/15276_2.png) [@kk\_fusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kk_fusion)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3302 "2020-06-28T20:35:13Z")
Were both human adults? Were they significant others? Was Archie legally able to leave the country? Was he physically able to travel long distances? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3303 "2020-06-28T20:36:21Z")
Did John go abroad only when Archie was unable to go? ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3304 "2020-06-28T22:05:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Archie and John were lifelong companions. But whenever John went abroad, he never took Archie with him. Why? Would John have preferred Archie to come? Would Archie have preferred to go? How frequently did John travel abroad? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3305 "2020-06-28T22:10:32Z")
Was Archie John’s pet, who would have had to go through quarantine if John took him along? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3306 "2020-06-28T23:01:26Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Would John have preferred Archie to come? **YES** > Would Archie have preferred to go? **NO IDEA** > How frequently did John travel abroad? **Fairly often(no set amount, but somewhat often)** > [@SCAdian](#): > > Was Archie John’s pet, who would have had to go through quarantine if John took him along? **NO** ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3307 "2020-06-29T00:47:45Z")
Is Archie’s last name Andrews? Is John’s last name Goldwater? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3309 "2020-06-29T01:10:07Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Is Archie’s last name Andrews? > > Is John’s last name Goldwater ? **NO to both** ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3310 "2020-06-29T01:42:54Z")
ZUI posts by kk\_fusion and Cheesesteak. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3311 "2020-06-29T01:50:54Z")
**Archie and John were lifelong companions. But whenever John went abroad, he never took Archie with him. Why?** > [@kk\_fusion](#): > > Were both human adults? **NO** > Were they significant others? **NO** > > Was Archie legally able to leave the country? **YES** > Was he physically able to travel long distances? **YES** > [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Did John go abroad only when Archie was unable to go? NO ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3312 "2020-06-29T01:52:28Z")
Was Archie legally able to return back to the country? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3313 "2020-06-29T02:29:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Archie and John were lifelong companions. But whenever John went abroad, he never took Archie with him. Why? There are several cities in the US named Archie. Was John a lifelong resident of one of them? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3314 "2020-06-29T02:34:07Z")
Oh, wait-- was Archie the name or a boat or a train that John took every day when he was at home? but didn’t use for international travel, preferring planes? ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3315 "2020-06-29T02:35:07Z")
Is Archie an animal? A child? An inanimate object? Does “abroad” have its usual meaning of “out of one’s country of residence”? Would it be helpful to know which country John lived in? Which one(s) he was traveling to? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3316 "2020-06-29T02:37:02Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Was Archie legally able to return back to the country? YES > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > There are several cities in the US named Archie. Was John a lifelong resident of one of them? NO > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Oh, wait-- was Archie the name or a boat or a train that John took every day when he was at home? but didn’t use for international travel, preferring planes? NO to all of those. > [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > Is Archie an animal? NO > > A child? NO > > An inanimate object? YES > > Does “abroad” have its usual meaning of “out of one’s country of residence”? YES > > Would it be helpful to know which country John lived in? Which one(s) he was traveling to? NO to both I think that is all the Q’s. I’m still getting used to Discourse. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3317 "2020-06-29T04:09:55Z")
Is Archie an oxygen tank, which notoriously cannot be flown in planes under pressure, and people have to make other choices, such as flying with an oxygen maker (which is not ideal for everyone, or load up on pain meds, and hope they don’t have an attack of what causes them to need the tank? If that’s not it, than is Archie some sort of myo-electric limb, which can not be recharged in most other countries, so John reverted back to and older style of like he had previously used with no electrical components? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3318 "2020-06-29T04:32:33Z")
Is John human? Is Archie human-like? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3319 "2020-06-29T06:22:49Z")
Is Archie some sort of doll or dummy? Is john a ventriloquist? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3320 "2020-06-29T08:51:14Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Would John have preferred Archie to come? **YES** Was Archie prevented from coming due to financial considerations? Was Archie prevented from coming due to the mode of transportation? Was Archie prevented from coming due to the laws in the countries of destination? Was Archie prevented from coming due to restrictions of an insurance company that held a policy on Archie? Was Archie prevented from coming due to considerations of security? In other words, is Archie very valuable, and the exceptional vigilance required would prevent John from enjoying time abroad. Did John travel mostly for work, mostly for pleasure, or mostly for education? Was John in the military? Was Archie a living creature? Was Archie once a living creature, but was no longer? Was Archie a musical instrument? Are John and Archie real names of participants, or pseudonyms invented for the story. Is this a true story, or a hypothetical invented for the game? Was Archie known as Archie, or by another name? (Cary Grant’s real name was Archie, and IIRC, he had a brother named John). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3321 "2020-06-29T14:53:44Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Is Archie an oxygen tank, which notoriously cannot be flown in planes under pressure, and people have to make other choices, such as flying with an oxygen maker (which is not ideal for everyone, or load up on pain meds, and hope they don’t have an attack of what causes them to need the tank? > > NO > > If that’s not it, than is Archie some sort of myo-electric limb, which can not be recharged in most other countries, so John reverted back to and older style of like he had previously used with no electrical components? > > NO > [@Biotop](#): > > Is John human? > > YES > > Is Archie human-like? > > NO > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Is Archie some sort of doll or dummy? > > YES > > Is john a ventriloquist? > > NO > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > > [@snoe](#): > > > > Would John have preferred Archie to come? **YES** > > Was Archie prevented from coming due to financial considerations? > > NO > > Was Archie prevented from coming due to the mode of transportation? > > NO > > Was Archie prevented from coming due to the laws in the countries of destination? > > NO > > Was Archie prevented from coming due to restrictions of an insurance company that held a policy on Archie? > > NO > > Was Archie prevented from coming due to considerations of security? > > YES > > Did John travel mostly for work, mostly for pleasure, or mostly for education? > > WORK AND PLEASURE > > Was John in the military? > > NO > > Was Archie a living creature? > > NO > > Was Archie once a living creature, but was no longer? > > NO > > Was Archie a musical instrument? > > NO > > Are John and Archie real names of participants, or pseudonyms invented for the story. > > REAL - I just am relying on people not to Google it > > Is this a true story, or a hypothetical invented for the game? > > TRUE > > Was Archie known as Archie, or by another name? (Cary Grant’s real name was Archie, and IIRC, he had a brother named John > > REAL NAME Still working on getting used to Discourse. I would like a “full preview” where I can see the entire post before posting. Does that exist? The little window on the right is awfully small. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3322 "2020-06-29T14:54:31Z")
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