# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3963 "2020-09-25T12:29:00Z")

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Was the perceived ‘topsy-turviness’ that Peter saw related to changes in gender roles? Race? Social class?

The event that people were gathered for … was Peter an expected part of this event? Were there other people involved in the event, apart from Peter and those in his employ? Was the event itself something that happened multiple times?

While Peter was upside down, was any part of his body in contact with the ground? Hands? Head? Feet?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3964 "2020-09-25T15:20:05Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Was the perceived ‘topsy-turviness’ that Peter saw related to changes in gender roles? Race? Social class? **IT WAS NOTHING SPECIFIC, JUST A GENERALLY TOPSY-TURVEY WORLD.**
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> The event that people were gathered for … was Peter an expected part of this event? **YES** Were there other people involved in the event, apart from Peter and those in his employ? **NO** Was the event itself something that happened multiple times? **NO**
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> While Peter was upside down, was any part of his body in contact with the ground? Hands? Head? Feet? **NOT DIRECT CONTACT … BUT VERY CLOSE TO THE SOIL.**

This question has been going on for a while, does anyone want me to end it and tell the answer, or would you like to carry on? Opinions, please.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3965 "2020-09-25T16:07:46Z")

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Don’t end it yet.

Stonehenge?

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3966 "2020-09-25T16:08:39Z")

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I googled it, and I will say that some of the questions here are too specific. So if y’all want to continue, look at some of the existing questions and think about how there might be a slightly different pov

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3967 "2020-09-25T16:35:09Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Stonehenge?

Nope, and not on a hill.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3968 "2020-09-25T17:30:06Z")

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Was Peter upside down longer than a minute?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3969 "2020-09-25T17:31:34Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Was Peter upside down longer than a minute?

YES  
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3970 "2020-09-26T14:55:51Z")

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Upside down longer than an hour? A day? More?

Was something holding him above ground?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3971 "2020-09-26T15:25:08Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Upside down longer than an hour? A day? More? **MORE**
> 
> Was something holding him above ground? **NO, BUT THINK ABOUT THIS.**

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3972 "2020-09-26T15:48:31Z")

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Could people see Peter once he was in his upside-down position?  
Was he on top of a platform or something? Does “close to the soil” mean he was on top of (or inside of) something that was touching the ground?  
Were his hands/head/feet touching the “floor”?  
Was his whole body in an upside-down position? Like feet above knees above hips above shoulders etc?  
Was he holding onto anything?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3973 "2020-09-26T16:37:16Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> Could people see Peter once he was in his upside-down position? **NO**  
> Was he on top of a platform or something? **NO** Does “close to the soil” mean he was on top of (or inside of) something that was touching the ground? **INSIDE**  
> Were his hands/head/feet touching the “floor”? **PROBABLY**  
> Was his whole body in an upside-down position? Like feet above knees above hips above shoulders etc? **YES**  
> Was he holding onto anything? **NO**

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3974 "2020-09-26T17:41:40Z")

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Was peter ‘laid to rest’ in an upside down position after death?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3975 "2020-09-26T18:15:36Z")

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[Major Peter Labilliere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Labilliere), buried head downwards on [Box Hill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_Hill,_Surrey) in Surrey.

Labilliere died on 6 June 1800.[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Labilliere#cite_note-Timbs-7) In accordance with his wishes he was [buried head downwards](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial#Inverted_burial), on 10 or 11 June on the western side of Box Hill above The Whites. In the presence of a crowd of thousands that included visitors from London as well as the local “quality gentry”,[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Labilliere#cite_note-Timbs-7)[[9]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Labilliere#cite_note-9) Labilliere was buried without any religious ceremony, having reportedly said that the world was “topsy-turvey” and that it would be righted in the end if he were interred thus.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Peter_Labelliere%27s_grave%2C_Box_Hill.JPG) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Peter_Labelliere%27s_grave%2C_Box_Hill.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3976 "2020-09-26T21:21:07Z")

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. \* wild applause \*

I was about a million miles from getting that one.

And now for something completely different.

**S T N D R D**

**What are the next two letters in this sequence, and why?**  
**(Puzzle courtesy of author Iain Banks - if you read it in the same book I read it in, don’t tell!)**

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3977 "2020-09-26T21:47:33Z")

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Could it be IL?

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**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3978 "2020-09-26T21:54:22Z")

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I’ve got it. As a hint the 41st letter in the sequence is S

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3979 "2020-09-26T22:01:11Z")

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It is not I L (what was the scheme that this would fall under? Curious!! 🙂 )

**Cardboard Boxx** If your scheme predicts that the 41st letter is S but the 31st and 51st are not, then it’s probably right - would you like to post it?

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**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3980 "2020-09-26T22:03:39Z")

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OK, since it was newly posted I thought I’d give others a go but:

> **Summary**
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> FIR **ST** SECO **ND** THI **RD** FOUR **TH** , then a lot of THs until TWENTY-FIR **ST**

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3981 "2020-09-26T22:09:32Z")

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If it goes that quickly it was legit too easy. I’ll have another go!

**George was sentenced to life imprisonment for a senseless murder. Yet later his part in an escape attempt was celebrated, not condemned. Why?**

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**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/3982 "2020-09-26T22:12:25Z")

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Is George French?

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