# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 251
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5003 "2022-02-20T05:17:34Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Was it Charles Atlas? No ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5004 "2022-02-20T05:19:25Z")
reply to Fretful\_Porpentine: You said one of the sciences involved was psychology… Psychology of cows? Yes Psychology of people? No If this particular scientific advancement had not happened… Would Charles still have been able to drink milk from a cow? Yes From this particular cow? Yes ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5005 "2022-02-20T12:39:02Z")
Did it have to do with scientific advances in farming and how it impacted the cows, and their milk? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5006 "2022-02-20T13:20:04Z")
Did it involve increased production of milk from cows? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5007 "2022-02-20T15:57:26Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Did it have to do with scientific advances in farming and how it impacted the cows, and their milk? Yes ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5008 "2022-02-20T15:57:54Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did it involve increased production of milk from cows? No ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5009 "2022-02-20T20:15:46Z")
Was it proof that mechanical milking didn’t make cows give spoiled milk? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5010 "2022-02-20T20:55:56Z")
Hey, this was kind of my next inquiry. Great Q. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5011 "2022-02-21T02:20:19Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Was it proof that mechanical milking didn’t make cows give spoiled milk? No. ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5012 "2022-02-21T02:30:10Z")
Is it likely that a consumer at home who’s having a nice, cold glass of milk along with a couple of freshly baked chocolate chip cookies would notice a difference between this milk and any regular cow’s milk that would have come from the store? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5013 "2022-02-21T04:57:14Z")
replt to dirtball: Is it likely that a consumer at home who’s having a nice, cold glass of milk along with a couple of freshly baked chocolate chip cookies would notice a difference between this milk and any regular cow’s milk that would have come from the store? No ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5014 "2022-02-21T06:08:05Z")
Did tgis have to do with Babcock and his experiments on only feeding cows specific grains? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5015 "2022-02-21T06:16:41Z")
reply to kitap: Did tgis have to do with Babcock and his experiments on only feeding cows specific grains? no ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5016 "2022-02-21T15:37:04Z")
Psychology of cows was relevant. So… Was the cow, broadly speaking, happier than normal cows? Was the cow less happy than normal cows? Did some relevant humans believe, possibly mistakenly or with insufficient evidence, that the cow was happier than normal? Are interactions between cows relevant? Are interactions between cows and humans relevant? Are interactions between the cow and some non-animal relevant? Is music relevant? I’m also wondering how Charles was known, despite not being a scientist, politician, athlete, or performer… Was he known for being rich? Was he a businessman? Was he a criminal? Was he known for something bad happening to him? Was he known primarily for a connection to someone else who was more famous than him? Was Charles an adult at the time of the milk-drinking? ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5017 "2022-02-21T16:11:32Z")
Was Charles usually known as “Charles”, or some diminutive (eg “Chuck”) ? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5018 "2022-02-21T16:16:32Z")
Never mind–just scrolled up and saw this question answered. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5019 "2022-02-21T16:19:38Z")
reply to Chronos: Psychology of cows was relevant. So… Was the cow, broadly speaking, happier than normal cows? supposedly. Was the cow less happy than normal cows? I don’t think so. Did some relevant humans believe, possibly mistakenly or with insufficient evidence, that the cow was happier than normal? The cow was thought to be good-tempered if that helps… Are interactions between cows relevant? No Are interactions between cows and humans relevant? No Are interactions between the cow and some non-animal relevant? Yes Is music relevant? No You know what they say about contented cows? 😉 I’m also wondering how Charles was known, despite not being a scientist, politician, athlete, or performer… Was he known for being rich? No Was he a businessman? No Was he a criminal? No Was he known for something bad happening to him? No Was he known primarily for a connection to someone else who was more famous than him? No Was Charles an adult at the time of the milk-drinking? Yes ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5020 "2022-02-21T16:20:59Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > Was Charles usually known as “Charles”, or some diminutive (eg “Chuck”) ? Charles ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5021 "2022-02-21T19:43:41Z")
Is the scientific advance regularly used in milk production today? If no, was it regularly used in the past? Was Charles famous for any reason connected to cows and / or milk? Could any person with a similar level of fame have drunk the milk without significantly changing the nature and newsworthiness of the event? Or did it have to be Charles, specifically? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5022 "2022-02-21T19:53:46Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > I’m also wondering how Charles was known, despite not being a scientist, politician, athlete, or performer… If not a performer, was he involved with the performing arts in another capacity? For example, writer, director, producer? Was he a writer other than for performing arts? For example, novelist or journalist. Was he an artist? Was he a politician? Was he a scientist? A mathematician? Did he create some revolutionary piece of technology? Was he the first person to achieve some remarkable feat? Was it in aviation? Was he a religious figure? A military figure? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=250) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=252)