# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 252
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5023 "2022-02-21T22:54:59Z")
I know mechanical milking was mentioned above, but does it have anything to do with mechanical milking? ---
**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5024 "2022-02-22T01:19:56Z")
Is it anything to do with cows producing more milk when you play music for them? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5025 "2022-02-22T05:15:48Z")
reply to Fretful\_Porpentine: Is the scientific advance regularly used in milk production today? No. If no, was it regularly used in the past? No Was Charles famous for any reason connected to cows and / or milk? No Could any person with a similar level of fame have drunk the milk without significantly changing the nature and newsworthiness of the event? Or did it have to be Charles, specifically? Charles added to the event in a way others could not. I think he increased the newsworthiness. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5026 "2022-02-22T05:19:16Z")
reply to Peter\_Morris: If not a performer, was he involved with the performing arts in another capacity? For example, writer, director, producer? No Was he a writer other than for performing arts? For example, novelist or journalist. No Was he an artist? No Was he a politician? No Was he a scientist? A mathematician? Did he create some revolutionary piece of technology? No to all. Was he the first person to achieve some remarkable feat? Yes Was it in aviation? Yes Was he a religious figure? No A military figure? No ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5027 "2022-02-22T05:22:11Z")
reply to Folly: I know mechanical milking was mentioned above, but does it have anything to do with mechanical milking?No reply to SurrenderDorothy: Is it anything to do with cows producing more milk when you play music for them? No ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5028 "2022-02-22T08:09:25Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Was he a scientist? A mathematician? Did he create some revolutionary piece of technology? No to all. > > Was he the first person to achieve some remarkable feat? Yes > Was it in aviation? Yes Was it Charles Lindbergh? ---
**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5029 "2022-02-22T09:05:36Z")
Was the location of the cow at any time important? At the time of milking? Was the location of Charles important? Did this have anything to do with the space program? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5030 "2022-02-22T11:24:08Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Was he the first person to achieve some remarkable feat? Yes > Was it in aviation? Yes Is the drinking of milk directly connected to aviation? Was it directly connected to his remarkable feat mentioned above? Did Charles desire a glass of milk after a long flight? Was it the first milk transported by aircraft? Was it the first cow transported by aircraft? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5031 "2022-02-22T13:17:05Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Was it Charles Lindbergh Yes ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5032 "2022-02-22T13:19:09Z")
Reply to Ana\_Byrd: Was the location of the cow at any time important? Yes At the time of milking? Yes Was the location of Charles important? No. Did this have anything to do with the space program? No ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5033 "2022-02-22T13:21:08Z")
Did Charles get fresh milk from a cow on one side of the ocean and drink it on the other side? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5034 "2022-02-22T13:21:38Z")
Is Elm Farm Ollie in the house? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5035 "2022-02-22T13:22:43Z")
reply to Peter\_Morris: Is the drinking of milk directly connected to aviation? Yes Was it directly connected to his remarkable feat mentioned above? No Did Charles desire a glass of milk after a long flight? No Was it the first milk transported by aircraft? No Was it the first cow transported by aircraft Yes ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5036 "2022-02-22T13:31:43Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Was it the first cow transported by aircraft Yes OK, so did he fly a cow across the ocean or something and drink its milk? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5037 "2022-02-22T13:32:11Z")
I call “next” when this is solved. We are pretty close here, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5038 "2022-02-22T13:44:44Z")
> **[Elm Farm Ollie](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_Farm_Ollie)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Elm Farm Ollie (known as "Nellie Jay" and post-flight as "Sky Queen") was the first cow to fly in an airplane, doing so on 18 February 1930, as part of the International Air Exposition in St. Louis, Missouri, United States. On the same trip, which covered 72 miles in a Ford Trimotor airplane from Bismarck, Missouri, to St. Louis, she also became the first cow milked in flight. This was done ostensibly to allow scientists to observe midair effects... > **[Sky Queen – The First Flying Cow | Umpqua Dairy](https://umpquadairy.com/sky-queen-the-first-flying-cow/)** > **[Elm Farm Ollie: America’s Flying Milking Cow](https://affotd.com/2015/03/24/elm-farm-ollie-americas-flying-milking-cow/)** > > “What’s the use of flying if you can’t even milk a cow on a plane?” What?  Bob, are you having a stroke? “Blast the monkey jam, Betty!” ~Transcript from 1930 International Air Exposition planning m… I think we have solved this. Elm Farm Ollie was the first cow on a plane and the first cow to be milked on a plane. And Charles Lindburgh received and drank a glass of her plane (plain?) milk. This puzzle is also kind of funny because the Day I posted this riddle, panache45put the event in the “Today in History” thread. I has been looking for something interesting to post there and came across this silly story. I decided it might better make a LTP and try it here, only to discover a little while later that panache45 had posted about the same thing in the other thread. Sorry Mahaloth, I did not want to give the exact date 1930 because it was right there at the top of the History thread! Thanks for all who played. Guessing “aviation” and “Lindburgh” were the keys. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5039 "2022-02-22T13:48:18Z")
I’ve never heard of any of this! I’ll double check my puzzle and post it when I can! Love it! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5040 "2022-02-22T13:51:43Z")
**A bouncer at a party once actually brought people together, but did so in a way unintended. How?** ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5041 "2022-02-22T13:56:32Z")
Does “bouncer” refer to the typical meaning (i.e., a guard who kicks rowdy people out)? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5042 "2022-02-22T14:07:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Does “bouncer” refer to the typical meaning (i.e., a guard who kicks rowdy people out)? **Yes, though “kicking rowdy people out” is not the only job bouncers do. At least as I understand it.** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=251) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=253)