# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5063 "2022-02-23T13:09:24Z")

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I know you said basic questions, but fuck it–are we talking Stonewall?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5064 "2022-02-23T13:27:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> are we talking Stonewall?

No. Not sure what you mean. Stonewall Jackson? Either way, not anything called Stonewall.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5065 "2022-02-23T14:13:20Z")

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Wow, I was sure I was right with that one–I thought you were talking about [**Stormé DeLarverie**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm%C3%A9_DeLarverie), the sometimes-bouncer whose rebellion against the arresting cops touched off the Stonewall Rebellion and the gay rights movement.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5066 "2022-02-23T14:25:57Z")

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Even if that’s not the one Mahaloth was thinking, it should still win.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5067 "2022-02-23T15:26:44Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Wow, I was sure I was right with that one–I thought you were talking about [**Stormé DeLarverie**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm%C3%A9_DeLarverie), the sometimes-bouncer whose rebellion against the arresting cops touched off the Stonewall Rebellion and the gay rights movement

Neat. Totally not what this is at all, but I love it. I concede, it fits the puzzle.

But, no, this isn’t anything to do with gay rights and so forth.

So, very good, but let’s get back to this puzzle, which has coincidentally another answer that fits well.

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**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5068 "2022-02-23T15:32:14Z")

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Since we know that the “coming together” part of this means people supporting a cause, or something more or less like that:

Are the people who came together mostly in the United States?

Could the cause in question be primarily described as any of the following:  
Something that concerns racism?  
Sexism?  
Environmentalism?  
Economic opportunity?

I’ll stress “primarily” as the operative word here, as these things can have, and are likely to have, some overlap.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5069 "2022-02-23T15:48:53Z")

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> [@dirtball](#):
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> Are the people who came together mostly in the United States? **YES**
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> Could the cause in question be primarily described as any of the following:  
> Something that concerns racism? **YES**  
> Sexism? **NO**  
> Environmentalism? **NO**  
> Economic opportunity? **NO**

I answered in the quote for this one.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5070 "2022-02-23T16:33:09Z")

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Were musicians involved ?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5071 "2022-02-23T17:06:56Z")

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Sorry about derailing with my previous comment–mostly was just surprised that there were two different possible answers. Back to the puzzle:

- Was the bouncer involved in an act of violence as part of this event?

- If so, was the bouncer the victim of the act of violence?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5072 "2022-02-23T17:15:02Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> -Were musicians involved?

No, they were not.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5073 "2022-02-23T17:15:15Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> - Was the bouncer involved in an act of violence as part of this event?
> - If so, was the bouncer the victim of the act of violence?

No to both.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5074 "2022-02-24T01:01:18Z")

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If the bouncer had known that his actions would have this effect, would he have tried to avoid it?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5075 "2022-02-24T01:06:09Z")

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> [@Ana\_Byrd](#):
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> would he have tried to avoid it?

Probably, yes.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5076 "2022-02-24T01:15:27Z")

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Would we have heard about him? Would we be surprised to find out that he had been a bouncer?

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**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5077 "2022-02-24T01:22:29Z")

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Did he do something that might reasonably be described as brave?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5078 "2022-02-24T01:43:51Z")

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Would we have heard about him? Would we be surprised to find out that he had been a bouncer?

No, not famous. I could have assigned a random name because the name isn’t even known.

> [@dirtball](#):
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> Did he do something that might reasonably be described as brave?

No.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5079 "2022-02-24T22:44:22Z")

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Let me clarify/modify just a bit. Nothing changing to the answer, but it might have been more than one bouncer and “bouncer” may not be the technical term. Let’s say guard/bouncer/gate-checker

**Some guards/bouncers/gate-checkers \* once actually brought people together, but did so in a way unintended. How?**

\*I feel like “gate-checker”, like the people that sort of spot and regulate who goes in and out of a party is probably the most accurate term.

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**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5080 "2022-02-24T22:49:44Z")

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Did they admit people into the bar/club/venue/whatever who would not previously have been admitted?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5081 "2022-02-24T22:52:28Z")

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> [@dirtball](#):
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> Did they admit people into the bar/club/venue/whatever who would not previously have been admitted?..

Nope. They followed the rules completely.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/5082 "2022-02-24T22:54:04Z")

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Did they relevantly refuse entry to someone?  
Did they refuse someone entry based on their race?

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