# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/821 "2019-12-03T23:05:29Z")

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You said he fake was made in the 20th century. Was the original it intended to mimic also from the 20th century?  
If not, XIX?  
XVIII?  
XVII?  
XVI?  
XV?  
XIV?  
Before that?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/822 "2019-12-03T23:15:47Z")

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Is the text handwritten?  
Is the text printed?  
Does it bear a picture of a person?  
Does it bear a picture of a landscape scene?  
Does it bear a picture of a small inanimate object?

Does it bear a picture that was photographically captured?  
Does it bear a picture that was drawn by a human?  
Does it bear a picture that was generated by a computer?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/823 "2019-12-03T23:15:32Z")

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Is the text handwritten?  
Is the text printed?  
Does it bear a picture of a person?  
Does it bear a picture of a landscape scene?  
Does it bear a picture of a small inanimate object?

Does it bear a picture that was photographically captured?  
Does it bear a picture that was drawn by a human?  
Does it bear a picture that was generated by a computer?

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/824 "2019-12-03T23:18:18Z")

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Is it related to music?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/825 "2019-12-03T23:20:38Z")

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[del]Does the paper mainly consist of written or printed words?[/del]  
nm, Chronos already asked.

Is it some kind of contract? A will?

Was it Chamberlain’s [piece of paper](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8eLT3mNxY)?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/826 "2019-12-03T23:35:59Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
>
> You said he fake was made in the 20th century. Was the original it intended to mimic also from the 20th century?

20th century.

> [@Chronos](#):
>
> Is the text handwritten? YES  
> Is the text printed? YES  
> Does it bear a picture of a person? YES  
> Does it bear a picture of a landscape scene? NO  
> Does it bear a picture of a small inanimate object? NO
> 
> Does it bear a picture that was photographically captured? YES  
> Does it bear a picture that was drawn by a human? NO  
> Does it bear a picture that was generated by a computer? NO

> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
>
> Is it related to music?

YES

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
>
> Is it some kind of contract? A will?
> 
> NOPE
> 
> Was it Chamberlain’s [piece of paper
> 
> NO]([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8eLT3mNxY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8eLT3mNxY))?

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/827 "2019-12-03T23:45:58Z")

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Was it an autographed picture?

The picture was real but the autograph was not?

Was Elvis involved?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/828 "2019-12-04T00:01:45Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Was it an autographed picture?
> 
> YES
> 
> The picture was real but the autograph was not?
> 
> YES
> 
> Was Elvis involved?
> 
> NO

kk

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/829 "2019-12-04T00:05:10Z")

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Popstar?

Rockstar?

Male?

Female?

Dead?

Michael Jackson?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/830 "2019-12-04T00:28:12Z")

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\*\*Les paid $2000 at an auction for an item even though he knew most of what made it valuable was fake. What is it and why did he pay so much?  
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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Popstar?
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> NO
> 
> Rockstar?
> 
> YES
> 
> Male?
> 
> YES
> 
> Female?
> 
> NO
> 
> Dead?
> 
> YES
> 
> Michael Jackson?
> 
> NO

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/831 "2019-12-04T00:40:25Z")

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Is the rockstar the one who was pictured?  
Is the purported autograph of the rockstar?  
Are pictures of this rockstar rare?  
Does the picture date from the timespan the rockstar was performing?  
Is the picture of the rockstar performing music?  
Is the picture one that could plausibly be the rockstar performing music?  
Does the picture show the rockstar doing anything he would have preferred not to be seen doing?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/832 "2019-12-04T00:47:58Z")

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Is the signed name a pseudonym -something like “Ziggy Stardust” but signed by Bowie or “Billy Shears” signed by a Beatle?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/833 "2019-12-04T01:03:31Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is the rockstar the one who was pictured?
> 
> YES (Edited: The rockstar is in the picture, but is not the only one in the picture)
> 
> Is the purported autograph of the rockstar?
> 
> YES
> 
> Are pictures of this rockstar rare?
> 
> NO
> 
> Does the picture date from the timespan the rockstar was performing?
> 
> YES
> 
> Is the picture of the rockstar performing music?
> 
> NO
> 
> Is the picture one that could plausibly be the rockstar performing music?
> 
> NO
> 
> Does the picture show the rockstar doing anything he would have preferred not to be seen doing?
> 
> NO

> [@Biotop](#):
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> Is the signed name a pseudonym -something like “Ziggy Stardust” but signed by Bowie or “Billy Shears” signed by a Beatle?

NO

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/834 "2019-12-04T01:26:52Z")

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Is it a relative of the rock star, something like John Lennon signing for Julian Lennon?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/835 "2019-12-04T01:29:23Z")

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Or a rock star who signed a silly picture of some kind purporting to be another rock star as an attempt at humor?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/836 "2019-12-04T01:50:00Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Is it a relative of the rock star, something like John Lennon signing for Julian Lennon?

No. Nice idea, but no. 🙂

> [@Biotop](#):
>
> Or a rock star who signed a silly picture of some kind purporting to be another rock star as an attempt at humor?

**YES**

I think we can fully solve this and have a great little wrap-up. Anyone want to go a bit further? I think it’s too early to call it solved, the specifics are great.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/837 "2019-12-04T02:00:54Z")

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Were they in the same band?  
Were they friends?  
Rivals?  
Was the humor critically meant? (For example someone making fun of KennyG.)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/838 "2019-12-04T02:05:17Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
>
> Were they in the same band?
> 
> YES
> 
> Were they friends?
> 
> YES
> 
> Rivals?
> 
> YES(sometimes)
> 
> Was the humor critically meant? (For example someone making fun of KennyG.)
> 
> NO

kk

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/839 "2019-12-04T02:11:06Z")

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Beatles?  
Nirvana?  
The Doors?  
The Who?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/840 "2019-12-04T02:28:16Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
>
> Beatles?  
> Nirvana?  
> The Doors?  
> The Who?

Beatles. We’ll call this one solved.

John Lennon signed all four of the Beatles names on a picture in a newspaper. He wrote “All the best from the Beatles” at the top and then signed for Paul, Ringo, himself(the only “real” part), and George.

The fact that Lennon did this made it unique and more valuable. Apparently, people think he just did it for a laugh.

I changed a detail. Les was the photographer, not the buyer. He was the one to realize Lennon had signed all four names and consequently, made it more valuable.

[See the picture and read about the story here.](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-38502586)

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