# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1261 "2019-12-23T17:15:11Z")

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Did Jay grow up in the same household as his dad?  
Are both Jay and his dad human?  
Did they get together intentionally?  
Was it a chance meeting?  
Was it the physical setting that made it strange or contributed to the strangeness?  
Are both Jay and his dad living at the time of the meeting?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1262 "2019-12-23T17:33:30Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> Did Jay grow up in the same household as his dad? NO  
> Are both Jay and his dad human? YES  
> Did they get together intentionally? YES  
> Was it a chance meeting? NO  
> Was it the physical setting that made it strange or contributed to the strangeness? YES(partly)  
> Are both Jay and his dad living at the time of the meeting? NO

kk

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1263 "2019-12-23T17:42:54Z")

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Was Jay in medical school and his dad was the cadaver?  
Is Jay living?  
Is dad living?  
Did dad know about Jay’s existence?  
Did dad leave Jay willingly/by choice or was it something else (accident, death, deportation, incarceration, kidnapping)?  
Did Jay grow up in the same household as his biological mom or was he adopted/fostered?  
By “dad” are we talking about biological dad?

I’M SORRY I’M ADDICTED I NEVER SHOULD HAVE CLICKED THIS THREAD

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1264 "2019-12-23T18:21:02Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
>
> Was Jay in medical school and his dad was the cadaver? NO - good guess!  
> Is Jay living? YES  
> Is dad living? NO  
> Did dad know about Jay’s existence? NOT SURE  
> Did dad leave Jay willingly/by choice or was it something else (accident, death, deportation, incarceration, kidnapping)? ACCIDENT  
> Did Jay grow up in the same household as his biological mom or was he adopted/fostered? BIOLOGICAL(I think)  
> By “dad” are we talking about biological dad? YES
> 
> I’M SORRY I’M ADDICTED I NEVER SHOULD HAVE CLICKED THIS THREAD

kk

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1265 "2019-12-23T18:39:26Z")

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At the start of the meeting, did Jay know that he was meeting someone?  
At the start of the meeting, did Jay know that the person he was meeting was his father?  
At the end of the meeting, did Jay know that the person he was meeting was his father?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1266 "2019-12-23T18:48:17Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
>
> At the start of the meeting, did Jay know that he was meeting someone?  
> At the start of the meeting, did Jay know that the person he was meeting was his father?  
> At the end of the meeting, did Jay know that the person he was meeting was his father?

YES to all.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1267 "2019-12-23T19:00:32Z")

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Was it a visit to a cemetery?

Did Jay found out that his father was dead recently?

Did Jay receive a message from his dead father?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1268 "2019-12-23T19:56:23Z")

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Before the meeting, did Jay know that the meeting would be unusual?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1269 "2019-12-23T21:45:48Z")

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Was Jay attending a funeral?  
Was dad’s corpse somewhere else besides a funeral or cemetery?  
Was dad’s corpse mostly intact?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1270 "2019-12-24T01:57:28Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
>
> Was it a visit to a cemetery? IN PART
> 
> Did Jay found out that his father was dead recently? NO
> 
> Did Jay receive a message from his dead father? NO

> [@Chronos](#):
>
> Before the meeting, did Jay know that the meeting would be unusual?

YES

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> Was Jay attending a funeral? NO  
> Was dad’s corpse somewhere else besides a funeral or cemetery? NO(not at first)  
> Was dad’s corpse mostly intact? YES - it was

kk

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1271 "2019-12-24T03:37:05Z")

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Was what Jay was doing illegal?

Was he digging his dad up because the cemetery was overcrowded? (I just heard a thing on This American Life about how this is a normal thing in Greece)

Did he dig the body up and take it elsewhere?

Is their relationship while dad was still alive relevant?

Is anything about dad’s life relevant?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1272 "2019-12-24T04:30:58Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
>
> Was what Jay was doing illegal? NO
> 
> Was he digging his dad up because the cemetery was overcrowded? (I just heard a thing on This American Life about how this is a normal thing in Greece)
> 
> NO
> 
> Did he dig the body up and take it elsewhere?
> 
> YES
> 
> Is their relationship while dad was still alive relevant?
> 
> YES, I guess so.
> 
> Is anything about dad’s life relevant?
> 
> YES

kk

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1273 "2019-12-24T05:44:10Z")

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Had Jay been searching for his dad?  
In re:

> [@](#):
>
> Did Jay found out that his father was dead recently? NO

Does “recently” refer to Jay’s discovery and \*not \*dad’s death?  
Did Jay not know his dad was dead at the time they got together?  
Was dad buried at that particular cemetery by mistake?  
Did Jay relocate his dad’s grave to their family plot?

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1274 "2019-12-24T11:09:40Z")

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Was Jay a grave robber?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1275 "2019-12-24T15:27:12Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Had Jay been searching for his dad? NO
> 
> In re: Does “recently” refer to Jay’s discovery and \*not \*dad’s death?
> 
> Huh?
> 
> Did Jay not know his dad was dead at the time they got together?
> 
> NO
> 
> Was dad buried at that particular cemetery by mistake?
> 
> NO
> 
> Did Jay relocate his dad’s grave to their family plot?
> 
> PERHAPS - he was relocated to a more prominent location and marker.

> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
>
> Was Jay a grave robber?

NO

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1276 "2019-12-24T15:37:48Z")

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Was Jay “meet” in the same way with other people?

Was Jay recovering a body (bodies)?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1277 "2019-12-24T16:11:39Z")

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So Jay knew his dad was dead, but wasn’t actively searching for him when he found him. Correct?

Dad wasn’t buried the first time by mistake. Did somebody else arrange for dad to be buried at the first cemetery?

Did Jay’s dad and another dead person happen to have the same name?

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1278 "2019-12-24T16:51:16Z")

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Was the dad cremated?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1279 "2019-12-25T02:32:37Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Was Jay “meet” in the same way with other people?
> 
> ???
> 
> Was Jay recovering a body (bodies)?
> 
> Recovering? NO (they were moving it, I said this already)

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> So Jay knew his dad was dead, but wasn’t actively searching for him when he found him. Correct?
> 
> YES. They knew where he was, no search required.
> 
> Dad wasn’t buried the first time by mistake. Did somebody else arrange for dad to be buried at the first cemetery?
> 
> YES
> 
> Did Jay’s dad and another dead person happen to have the same name?
> 
> NO

> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
>
> Was the dad cremated?

NO

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1280 "2019-12-25T15:56:01Z")

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Is this a specific real situation with specific real people? (I’m going to guess yes or you wouldn’t be uncertain if mom was his biological mom- you would just make it up one way or the other)  
Was this within the last century or older?  
Was dad famous?  
Was dad a religious or political figure?  
Military?  
Was Jay famous?  
Was he re-buried under the ground somewhere else?  
Was he put on display? Like the body itself, not the marker.  
Do people who are unrelated to dad and never knew him visit his grave?  
If the body WAS intact, that implies it isn’t at the end. Is that correct?  
Would it be less intact simply because exhuming a body can do some damage to it or was it deliberately dismantled?

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