# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1281 "2019-12-26T19:29:22Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
>
> Is this a specific real situation with specific real people? (I’m going to guess yes or you wouldn’t be uncertain if mom was his biological mom- you would just make it up one way or the other)
> 
> REAL PEOPLE
> 
> Was this within the last century or older?
> 
> Within the last 100 years. It was **2007** if you want the year.
> 
> Was dad famous?
> 
> YES
> 
> Was dad a religious or political figure?
> 
> NO
> 
> Military?
> 
> NO
> 
> Was Jay famous?
> 
> NO
> 
> Was he re-buried under the ground somewhere else?
> 
> YES, I do think he went back underground.
> 
> Was he put on display? Like the body itself, not the marker.
> 
> NO
> 
> Do people who are unrelated to dad and never knew him visit his grave?
> 
> YES, definitely. Especially now it has a marker and was moved.
> 
> If the body WAS intact, that implies it isn’t at the end. Is that correct?
> 
> At the end of what? ???
> 
> Would it be less intact simply because exhuming a body can do some damage to it or was it deliberately dismantled?
> 
> I’m confused what you are asking.

kk

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1282 "2019-12-27T00:24:13Z")

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I was thinking like relics from saints, but your other answers ruled it out.

Okay, so dad was real and famous.  
Was he a musician?  
Was he an actor?  
Was he a visual artist?  
Was the more prominent grave marker the main reason for digging him up or was there some other reason?  
Did dad die shortly before being exhumed/reburied or had he been dead a while?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1283 "2019-12-27T02:04:29Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
>
> Okay, so dad was real and famous.  
> Was he a musician?
> 
> YES
> 
> Was he an actor?  
> Was he a visual artist?  
> Was the more prominent grave marker the main reason for digging him up or was there some other reason?
> 
> NO, the main reason was the grave marker.
> 
> Did dad die shortly before being exhumed/reburied or had he been dead a while?
> 
> Awhile

kk

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**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1284 "2019-12-27T02:54:57Z")

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Was Dad in a leased grave?  
Was Dad actually buried?  
Or was he interred in a tomb?

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1285 "2019-12-27T03:41:43Z")

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Okay, to summarize:

in 2007, Jay moved his dad’s body to a more prominent location/bigger marker/tourist destination type deal. Dad was a famous musician who had been dead a while before this happened. Jay did not grow up with his dad in his life due to an accident.

So details:

1. Had it been more or less than a decade since his dad’s death?
2. Was the accident what killed him?
3. Was dad from the USA or elsewhere (and did this mostly take place in the USA or elsewhere or multiple countries?)
4. Was the accident itself newsworthy? Was it a car accident? A sports accident? A drowning? A nature-related accident like being mauled by a bear or falling down a slope while hiking or something? A freak accident? A plane crash? A shipwreck? An accidental overdose?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1286 "2019-12-27T03:43:48Z")

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Was Dad a Holocaust survivor?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1287 "2019-12-27T05:20:43Z")

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I’ll reveal the answer tomorrow as we have almost all the details, but let’s keep going for a bit.

> [@Personal](#):
>
> Was Dad in a leased grave?  
> Was Dad actually buried?  
> Or was he interred in a tomb?

Dad was buried.

> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
>
> Okay, to summarize:
> 
> in 2007, Jay moved his dad’s body to a more prominent location/bigger marker/tourist destination type deal. Dad was a famous musician who had been dead a while before this happened. Jay did not grow up with his dad in his life due to an accident.
> 
> So details:
> 
> 1. Had it been more or less than a decade since his dad’s death?
> 2. Was the accident what killed him?
> 3. Was dad from the USA or elsewhere (and did this mostly take place in the USA or elsewhere or multiple countries?)
> 4. Was the accident itself newsworthy? Was it a car accident? A sports accident? A drowning? A nature-related accident like being mauled by a bear or falling down a slope while hiking or something? A freak accident? A plane crash? A shipwreck? An accidental overdose?

1. It had been more than a decade since his death.
2. Yes, an accident killed him.
3. USA
4. Yes, the accident was newsworthy. It was a plane crash.

> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
>
> Was Dad a Holocaust survivor?

No.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1288 "2019-12-27T06:17:23Z")

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Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens or the Big Bopper?  
(I looked it up. won’t reveal the details here. Not sure your description is quite accurate. THe information I found doesn’t indicate that he was given a new memorial)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1289 "2019-12-27T14:28:13Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
>
> Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens or the Big Bopper?  
> (I looked it up. won’t reveal the details here. Not sure your description is quite accurate. THe information I found doesn’t indicate that he was given a new memorial)

You looked it up? OK…didn’t know we were doing that…

Anyway, yes it was the Big Bopper.

His wife was pregnant when he died, so his son never met his father. When they exhumed Big Bopper to put him in a new grave and make a new memorial, his son Jay(now 48 years old) had them open the casket so he could “meet” his Father for the first time. They said his body was in surprisingly OK shape after almost 50 years.

[Here is the story, which does indicate they put up a life size statue of him](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-04-04-0704020146-story.html)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1290 "2019-12-27T16:37:44Z")

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\*\*To help with a fundraiser, a woman donated a pair of socks. The socks were pulled apart into threads and the threads from these socks were each attached to a commemorative card and the cards sold to raise money. What were the cards commemorating? \*\*

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1291 "2019-12-27T18:24:11Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
>
> \*\*To help with a fundraiser, a woman donated a pair of socks. The socks were pulled apart into threads and the threads from these socks were each attached to a commemorative card and the cards sold to raise money. What were the cards commemorating? \*\*

Any word play in this puzzle?

Is this a real event? If so, what year(to skip all the decades, etc.)?

Is this event famous in your opinion?

Was it a charity?

Was it for an illness?

Was the fundraiser anything to do with feet?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1292 "2019-12-27T18:47:44Z")

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**reply to Mahaloth**

Any word play in this puzzle? No

Is this a real event? Yes\*

If so, what year(to skip all the decades, etc.)? The fundraiser or what was being commemorated? I don’t know which you are asking about\*.

Is this event famous in your opinion? See below\*.

Was it a charity? See below\*

Was it for an illness? No.

Was the fundraiser anything to do with feet? No

- The fundraiser is not famous. That which is being commemorated is. Everyone here knows it. Both are real occurrences. The fundraiser was a charity, that which is being remembered was not a charity. The fundraiser occurred in the mid to late nineteenth century. That which is being commemorated occurred in the early part of that century.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1293 "2019-12-27T20:04:35Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
>
> If so, what year(to skip all the decades, etc.)? The fundraiser or what was being commemorated? I don’t know which you are asking about\*.

Both.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1294 "2019-12-27T20:10:40Z")

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Did the socks belong to a famous person?  
Was the woman his wife or daughter?

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1295 "2019-12-27T20:25:36Z")

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Was the event being commemorated something in the US? Europe? Canada? Mexico? Africa? Asia? S. America? Australia? Or on the ocean?

Did the donor make the socks? Did she purchase them new? Were they an heirloom?  
Was there something about the socks themselves that made them special?  
Was there something special about the donor?  
Was the event being commemorated mostly positive or mostly negative? Or ambiguous or entirely dependent on perspective?  
Was it one event or was it something broader?  
Was war involved in the initial event? Art? Weather/nature? Conquest? Innovation? Politics?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1296 "2019-12-27T20:42:00Z")

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Did the cards commemorate someone’s birthday?  
Did the socks belong to a performer?  
Are other belongings of the socks’s owner in high demand?

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1297 "2019-12-27T20:52:41Z")

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Is the event the discovery of Antarctica?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1298 "2019-12-28T01:02:14Z")

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**reply to panache45** :

Did the socks belong to a famous person? Yes  
Was the woman his wife or daughter? No.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1299 "2019-12-28T01:14:13Z")

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**reply to SurrenderDorothy**

Was the event being commemorated something in the US? Yes  
Europe? Canada? Mexico? Africa? Asia? S. America? Australia? Or on the ocean? No to all.

Did the donor make the socks? Did she purchase them new? Were they an heirloom? No to all

Was there something about the socks themselves that made them special? Yes.  
Was there something special about the donor? Yes  
Was the event being commemorated mostly positive or mostly negative? Or ambiguous or entirely dependent on perspective? Positive.  
Was it one event or was it something broader? Something broader I guess. I had to think about how to answer this.

Was war involved in the initial event? No

Art? Weather/nature? Conquest? Innovation? Politics? No to all. Though art and nature are tangential.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1300 "2019-12-28T01:16:39Z")

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\*\*reply to Knowed Out \*\*

Did the cards commemorate someone’s birthday? No.  
Did the socks belong to a performer? No.

Are other belongings of the socks’s owner in high demand? I don’t think so.

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