# Lateral Thinking Puzzles. Let's do it again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193 "2019-10-23T21:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1461 "2020-01-06T03:50:06Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Remember we are dealing with a “first and only time” sports occurrence. What happened has never happened before and most likely will never happen again. A perfect game in the World Series is more probable.\*\* Did the jockey fall off but the horse still won? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1462 "2020-01-06T05:26:21Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did the jockey fall off but the horse still won? **He won. He stayed on the horse during the race. My sources differ as to whether he later fell off the horse.** ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1463 "2020-01-06T06:21:55Z")
Was “it” something the horse did? Was "It"something the jockey did? Was “It” something the owner’s did? Was “It” something another person did? Was "It"something another horse did? Was “It” something legal yet shameful somehow? Was “It” something legal but unsportsmanlike somehow? ---
**Author:** ![LennieB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@LennieB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LennieB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1464 "2020-01-06T06:28:14Z")
Got it! “Sweet Kiss” became known as “Sweet Kiss of Death” when her jockey finished the race…dead! Thereafter, no other jockey would ride her, so hence her forced retirement after one race. > **[Dead Man Riding](https://horsenetwork.com/2016/05/dead-man-riding/)** > > Frank Hayes, stableman and trainer by trade, and maiden racer Sweet Kiss, hold a bizarre distinction in racing history. The pair competed in only one race, and though they won, it was what happened afterwards that puts them in the record books.... ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1465 "2020-01-06T07:30:53Z")
> [@LennieB](#): > > Got it! > > “Sweet Kiss” became known as “Sweet Kiss of Death” when her jockey finished the race…dead! Thereafter, no other jockey would ride her, so hence her forced retirement after one race. > > [Dead Man Riding](https://horsenetwork.com/2016/05/dead-man-riding/) \*\* That’s it. The amazing thing is that both rider and horses were novices. And because jockey Frank Hayes was still on his horse for half the race while dead, it was declared a legal sporting event result. Quite a day was June 4, 1923! It was not until the owner went to congratulate her man that they realized Frank Hayes been dead from about the halfway portion of the race. To this day Frank Hayes is the only dead jockey to officially win a race. Indeed he is only person ever to win any major sporting competition while dead. He is also considered to be the only known undefeated jockey ever. Poor Sweet Kiss deserved better. She won despite the dead weight.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1466 "2020-01-06T12:04:51Z")
Since there’s no takers, let me take a stab at one. **Becky created two things in one night. One would make her quite rich and successful almost immediately. The other one would do okay, but prove to be even more of a moneymaker twenty years later. Who is Becky?** ---
**Author:** ![LennieB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@LennieB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LennieB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1467 "2020-01-06T12:49:47Z")
Is Becky still alive? Are her creations associated by title with her (like “Dr. Scholl’s Foot Pads”)? Was Creation #1: Patented? For the general public to purchase and use? For government purposes (say, O-rings and NASA)? For children’s use? Strictly for adult usage? Was Creation #2: Patented? For the general public to purchase and use? For government purposes (say, O-rings and NASA)? For children’s use? Strictly for adult usage? Are both still available and/or in use today? ---
**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1468 "2020-01-06T14:02:04Z")
Are the things she created physical objects? Does “created” mean “invented” or created in some other way, like a creative work? Did she create these things on her own or was she part of a team or organization? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1469 "2020-01-06T14:05:55Z")
Was the “one night” in the 20th century? The 19th? The 18th? Earlier than the 18th century? (it’s apparently not the 21st century, because we know what happened 20 years after it) Was at least one of the things she made something that would be called an invention? Was at least one of the things she made a work of art? Was at least one of the things she made nonphysical (an abstract concept of some sort)? ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1470 "2020-01-06T15:15:30Z")
_ **Becky created two things in one night. One would make her quite rich and successful almost immediately. The other one would do okay, but prove to be even more of a moneymaker twenty years later. Who is Becky?** _ > [@LennieB](#): > > Is Becky still alive? YES > > Are her creations associated by title with her (like “Dr. Scholl’s Foot Pads”)? NO > > Was Creation #1: > Patented? NO > For the general public to purchase and use? YES > For government purposes (say, O-rings and NASA)? NO > For children’s use? YES > Strictly for adult usage? NO > > Was Creation #2: > Patented? NO > For the general public to purchase and use? YES > For government purposes (say, O-rings and NASA)? NO > For children’s use? YES > Strictly for adult usage? NO > > Are both still available and/or in use today? YES > [@SurrenderDorothy](#): > > Are the things she created physical objects? NO > Does “created” mean “invented” NO > or created in some other way, like a creative work? YES > Did she create these things on her own YES > or was she part of a team or organization? NO > [@Chronos](#): > > Was the “one night” in the 20th century? YES > The 19th? NO > The 18th? NO > Earlier than the 18th century? NO > (it’s apparently not the 21st century, because we know what happened 20 years after it) > > Was at least one of the things she made something that would be called an invention? NO > Was at least one of the things she made a work of art? YES > Was at least one of the things she made nonphysical YES > (an abstract concept of some sort)? CLARIFY ---
**Author:** ![LennieB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@LennieB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LennieB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1471 "2020-01-06T16:54:08Z")
Was this night in the: 1950’s? 1960’s? 1970 or later? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1472 "2020-01-06T16:56:18Z")
Is Becky an artist? Is her creation a children’s book character? Was Becky a child when she made her first creation? ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1473 "2020-01-06T17:07:56Z")
_ **Becky created two things in one night. One would make her quite rich and successful almost immediately. The other one would do okay, but prove to be even more of a moneymaker twenty years later. Who is Becky?** _ > [@LennieB](#): > > Was this night in the: > 1950’s?\*\* NO\*\* > 1960’s? **NO** > 1970 or later? **YES** > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Is Becky an artist? **YES** > Is her creation a children’s book character? **NO (Let me clarify that LennyB asked if it was for children’s use, and it indeed can be used by children as well as adults. But it’s not specifically catered to children)** > Was Becky a child when she made her first creation? **NO** ---
**Author:** ![LennieB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@LennieB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LennieB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1474 "2020-01-06T17:34:23Z")
The creations are not physical objects, nor are they a “children’s book character”. Are they songs? ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1475 "2020-01-06T17:56:41Z")
_ **Becky created two things in one night. One would make her quite rich and successful almost immediately. The other one would do okay, but prove to be even more of a moneymaker twenty years later. Who is Becky?** _ > [@LennieB](#): > > The creations are not physical objects, NO > > nor are they a “children’s book character”. NO > > Are they songs? YES ---
**Author:** ![LennieB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@LennieB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LennieB)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1476 "2020-01-06T18:26:24Z")
Got it! “Becky” is Dolly Parton! She wrote “Jolene” and “I Will Always Love you” in one night in 1972. The latter song was made even more popular in 1992 by Whitney Houston. > **[Did Dolly Parton Write 'Jolene' and 'I Will Always Love You' in One Day?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dolly-parton-2-songs-one-day/)** > > The world-famous country music artist recalled having a "good writing day" in 1972. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1477 "2020-01-06T18:28:17Z")
> [@LennieB](#): > > Got it! > > “Becky” is Dolly Parton! > > She wrote “Jolene” and “I Will Always Love you” in one night in 1972. > > The latter song was made even more popular in 1992 by Whitney Houston. > > [Did Dolly Parton Write 'Jolene' and 'I Will Always Love You' in One Day? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dolly-parton-2-songs-one-day/) Yep. Dolly Rebecca Parton. You got it. 🆒🆒🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1478 "2020-01-06T20:20:17Z")
I got one. Give me a few minutes and I’ll post. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1479 "2020-01-06T20:29:35Z")
\*\*Norman’s saved 449 lives from brutal deaths and he did it with some very quick and ingenious thinking. What was the situation and what did Norman do? \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193/1480 "2020-01-06T20:30:49Z")
Are all 449 lives human? (non-human) Animal? Plant? Is Norman a human? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-lets-do-it-again/842193.md?page=75)