# Lateral Thinking Puzzles - third time is best! **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 18, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214 "2023-07-18T13:39:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/21 "2023-07-18T17:56:29Z")
> [@Ana\_Byrd](#): > > Did Igor commit a crime (as the law saw it)? > > **YES** > > Did other people Igor interacted with commit any crimes (as the law saw it)? > > **NO** Yep, OK. ---
**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/22 "2023-07-18T18:03:41Z")
Did Igor run a scam of some sort? Are viruses or malware involved? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/23 "2023-07-18T22:33:00Z")
> [@Ana\_Byrd](#): > > Did Igor run a scam of some sort? > > **YES** , I think that is fair. > > Are viruses or malware involved? > > **NO** Embeded in quote. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/24 "2023-07-18T22:46:34Z")
Did Igor stand to gain money from his trolling? Did his trolling serve to prevent him from losing money? Did the trolling serve to manipulate the price of something? Did he have any other, non-financial, motives for trolling? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/25 "2023-07-18T22:52:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Did Igor stand to gain money from his trolling? > > **YES** > > Did his trolling serve to prevent him from losing money? > > **SOMETIMES** > > Did the trolling serve to manipulate the price of something? > > **NO** > > Did he have any other, non-financial, motives for trolling? > > **NO**. I mean, he’s a jerk, like all trolls, but no non-financial reasons really. Yep, there are the answers. ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/26 "2023-07-19T01:31:24Z")
Igor is being spoken of in the past tense. So to be clear, is Igor no longer active as a troll? If he’s no longer active, is he known to be alive and retired by his own choice? Alive but has been forced in some way to retire? Known to be dead? Is Igor’s real-life identity known? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/27 "2023-07-19T01:58:04Z")
> [@dirtball](#): > > So to be clear, is Igor no longer active as a troll? > > **NO, he is not active** > > If he’s no longer active, is he known to be alive and retired by his own choice? > > **ALIVE. NOT RETIRED BY CHOICE.** > > Alive but has been forced in some way to retire? > > **YES** > > Known to be dead? > > **NO** > > Is Igor’s real-life identity known? > > **YES** Igor was just picked as a name since it sounds like a Troll to me. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/28 "2023-07-19T02:49:39Z")
Is this a troll in the sense of someone who posts with the intention of annoying others? Was it some other use of ‘troll’ ? - something related to fishing? - did he portray the mythical humanoid? Maybe in some gaming community? ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/29 "2023-07-19T03:02:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Igor was just picked as a name since it sounds like a Troll to me I get that. My question was just from the point of view that he might be known only as an online persona with a user name that doesn’t identify him in real life. And in that spirit, was his real identity known from the beginning of his trolling career? Was some kind of investigation involved in making him stop? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/30 "2023-07-19T03:06:37Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Is this a troll in the sense of someone who posts with the intention of annoying others? > > ANNOYANCE WAS NOT HIS INTENTION. AND NOT JUST AN ONLINE TROLL. > > Was it some other use of ‘troll’ ? > > - something related to fishing? > - did he portray the mythical humanoid? Maybe in some gaming community? > > **NO TO THESE** Yep, that’s it for now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/31 "2023-07-19T03:07:39Z")
> [@dirtball](#): > > And in that spirit, was his real identity known from the beginning of his trolling career? > > **HE USED HIS REAL NAME, SO YES.** > > Was some kind of investigation involved in making him stop? > > **YES** Word-count. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/32 "2023-07-19T10:59:18Z")
Is/was Igor a political figure? Is Igor in prison? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/33 "2023-07-19T11:26:04Z")
Was Igor known primarily for his trolling or was he a known figure outside of trolling activity. You noted that Igor committed a crime, was he convicted of that crime? Did he go to jail? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/34 "2023-07-19T11:48:28Z")
Is Igor Bill O’Reilly? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/35 "2023-07-19T12:48:15Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Is/was Igor a political figure? **NO** > Is Igor in prison? **YES** > [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Was Igor known primarily for his trolling or was he a known figure outside of trolling activity. > > **He’s not known outside this event, so I guess the trolling.** > > You noted that Igor committed a crime, was he convicted of that crime? Did he go to jail? > > **YES AND YES** > [@Gyrate](#): > > Is Igor Bill O’Reilly? **NO** , but he kind of fits. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/36 "2023-07-19T13:08:29Z")
Was the crime the trolling itself, in some sense? Was the trolling intended to in some way shield him from the consequences of his crime? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/37 "2023-07-19T13:20:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Was the crime the trolling itself, in some sense? > > **The trolling is connected to his crimes, but I guess is not the actual reason he was locked up. The motivations for his trolling are very interesting(to me) and the focus of the puzzle.** > > Was the trolling intended to in some way shield him from the consequences of his crime? > > **NO** , he trolled during his crime(s). This is a news story like many of our lateral puzzles. A very interesting and unique situation. Maybe try thinking about odd situations to troll in or why someone typically trolls or is incredibly rude to people or is extremely jerkish. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/38 "2023-07-19T13:26:36Z")
Did the crime involve taking people’s money? Violence? Tax evasion? Did the trolling provide evidence of the crimes? How long was this troll active? 1 week? 1 month? 1 year? Multiple years? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/39 "2023-07-19T13:43:33Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Did the crime involve taking people’s money? Violence? Tax evasion? > > **Taking money.** > > Did the trolling provide evidence of the crimes? > > **NO** , but it was oddly part of his crimes. > > How long was this troll active? 1 week? 1 month? 1 year? Multiple years? > > **A few years, I think.** Yep, answered. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/40 "2023-07-19T17:37:42Z")
Was the crime related to stocks? Fraud? Was he selling something? Did he encourage people to send him money? The nature of the trolling, was he attacking individual people or institutions? Did he have a particular subject that was the focus of the trolling? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214.md?page=3)