# Lateral Thinking Puzzles - third time is best!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 18, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214 "2023-07-18T13:39:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1021 "2023-09-11T17:04:28Z")

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Was the selfie published in a magazine/newspaper/book?

Did someone in the photo object to its use? Like, was it leaked when it maybe shouldn’t have been?

Is there just one person in the selfie?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1022 "2023-09-11T17:10:36Z")

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Was it a selfie of an animal?

a macaque specifically

Was the case over copyright issues?

Naruto v David Slater I had to look that up but the previous 3 questions was based on my memory of the case.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1023 "2023-09-11T17:23:12Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> Was the selfie published in a magazine/newspaper/book? **Yes, newspaper**
> 
> Did someone in the photo object to its use? Like, was it leaked when it maybe shouldn’t have been? **No**
> 
> Is there just one person in the selfie? **Just one**

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Was it a selfie of an animal? **Yes**
> 
> a macaque specifically **Yup, that’s the one.**
> 
> Was the case over copyright issues? **Yes**
> 
> Naruto v David Slater I had to look that up but the previous 3 questions was based on my memory of the case. **That’s it.**

And **solved** - it was over [whether copyright applies to a selfie taken by a monkey.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute#Naruto_v._David_Slater_et_al.)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1024 "2023-09-11T20:05:10Z")

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So in one Sunday Nancy comic strip Nancy and Sluggo are walking along and see a “Help Wanted --Raking” sign. They go in and meet up with a smiling kid who hands to both the rakes they will need for the job. But the rakes are somewhat unusual. The rakes have the normal long handles and the normal prongs at the bottom, but every ten inches or so up each rake handle is a small seven or eight inch crossbar, with each rake having four such crossbars. “I wonder why the rakes have these strange crossbars?” Sluggo wonders in the second to last panel. The last panel then shows why. So why?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1025 "2023-09-11T20:32:28Z")

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So children of various heights can use them, the crossbars serving as extra handles?

So multiple children can pull each rake simultaneously?

Because the rakes will be needed to double as ladders, either to get at the raking job or to get out of wherever it is when done?

So the place hiring random rakers off the street can recognize their rakes if the rakers walk off with them?

So the rakes can also be used as supports to hang things from the rakes?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1026 "2023-09-11T20:37:08Z")

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To measure how deep the pile of leaves is?

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1027 "2023-09-11T20:42:00Z")

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Are the rakes being used as ladders?

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**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1028 "2023-09-11T20:46:39Z")

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Do the crossbars allow the worker to perform some other task along with the raking?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1029 "2023-09-11T20:55:53Z")

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[B[reply to thorny\_locust[/b]:

So children of various heights can use them, the crossbars serving as extra handles? No

So multiple children can pull each rake simultaneously? No

Because the rakes will be needed to double as ladders, Yes either to get at the raking job or to get out of wherever it is when done? No

So the place hiring random rakers off the street can recognize their rakes if the rakers walk off with them? No

So the rakes can also be used as supports to hang things from the rakes? No

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1030 "2023-09-11T20:56:21Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> To measure how deep the pile of leaves is?

No

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1031 "2023-09-11T20:56:52Z")

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> [@Ana\_Byrd](#):
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> Are the rakes being used as ladders?

Yes

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1032 "2023-09-11T20:57:24Z")

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> [@dirtball](#):
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> Do the crossbars allow the worker to perform some other task along with the raking?

No

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1033 "2023-09-11T21:00:23Z")

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Are the ladders for the kids to climb?

For animals to climb?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1034 "2023-09-11T21:43:39Z")

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Are they used as ladders before the raking is started?  
While the raking job is in progress?  
After the raking is completed?

Do they have any purpose other than as ladders?

Do the ladders allow access to/from some place above ground level?  
Below ground level?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1035 "2023-09-12T00:05:33Z")

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reply to Ana\_Byrd:

Are the ladders for the kids to climb? Yes

For animals to climb? No

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1036 "2023-09-12T00:08:19Z")

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reply to Chronos:

Are they used as ladders before the raking is started? No  
While the raking job is in progress? Yes  
After the raking is completed? No

Do they have any purpose other than as ladders? No  
Do the ladders allow access to/from some place above ground level? Yes  
Below ground level? No

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1037 "2023-09-12T00:31:15Z")

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Are they raking leaves off the trees before the leaves fall?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1038 "2023-09-12T00:33:27Z")

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Is this a setup for a pun?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1039 "2023-09-12T00:44:19Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Are they raking leaves off the trees before the leaves fall?

No. But that is kind of funny.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lateral-thinking-puzzles-third-time-is-best/987214/1040 "2023-09-12T00:45:00Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Is this a setup for a pun?

No.

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