# Latest Sign of the Apocalypse: Bieber at the Anne Frank House

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 14, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709 "2013-04-14T20:33:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/41 "2013-04-15T10:03:23Z")

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In case anyone missed it:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhpJC1FRTtI)

I’m not saying he’s not an idiot, I’m saying this is dumb.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/42 "2013-04-15T10:18:08Z")

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I suggest we merge this thread and [this one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688169)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/43 "2013-04-15T10:32:52Z")

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A Bieber concert or a concentration camp?

Tough choice.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/44 "2013-04-15T10:53:23Z")

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> [@voguevixen](#):
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> Sorta kinda rich people ways.:rolleyes:

Ok I actually feel bad about this because he is only rich people for a very short time of his life.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/45 "2013-04-15T11:03:46Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> Actually, he survives it because unlike all other mortals, he actually was the most important person in the universe (since he saves it).

Actually, I think he survives it because it is a replica Total Perspective Vortex in a replica universe that was made just for him. Therefore, he actually is the entire reason for that universe.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/46 "2013-04-15T11:14:44Z")

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Dear Kitty,

On Sunday evening everyone except Pim was sitting beside the wireless in order to listen to the “Immortal Music of Justin Beiber.” Dussel fiddled with the knobs contiuously. This annoyed Peter and the others too. After restraining himself for half an hour, Peter asked somewhat irritably if the twisting and turning might stop. Dussel answered in his most hoity-toity manner, “I’m getting the sounds of Beiber just right.” I, for one, was glad that he did.

Yours, Anne

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/47 "2013-04-15T12:54:13Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> Sure, quote Bieber’s statement out of context and it’s outrageous.

I’m pretty sure we know the context. He wrote it in the guestbook at the Anne Frank house.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/48 "2013-04-15T13:36:32Z")

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Of course I have to admit I laughed all the way through David Sedaris’s piece on touring the Anne Frank house. (He was apartment hunting in Paris at the time and claimed that the attic annex, far from being gloomy, was _exactly_ what he and his partner were looking for as a pied-a-terre.)

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/49 "2013-04-15T13:58:06Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Honestly, if you need Bieber’s publicist to point this out to you (because, let’s face it, this is obviously what he meant), you shouldn’t be allowed near a computer.

Let’s go with that - Bieber was wishing Anne had a typical teen’s life. Cool. He still did it in a mock-worthy, narcissistic, douchey sort of way.

Look, my invoking the Apocalypse was to be funny; this is silly news about a silly boy doing a silly thing. Nothing more and nothing worth getting upset at the Biebs over - just a bit of pointing and giggling.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/50 "2013-04-15T14:08:58Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Of course I have to admit I laughed all the way through David Sedaris’s piece on touring the Anne Frank house. (He was apartment hunting in Paris at the time and claimed that the attic annex, far from being gloomy, was _exactly_ what he and his partner were looking for as a pied-a-terre.)

I don’t even like Bieber, but this is what irritates me. If it’s an entertainer we like (and Sedaris is awesome), all of a sudden the “sacredness” of Anne Frank’s house doesn’t matter anymore.

I just don’t understand how a reasonably normal teenager became the devil.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/51 "2013-04-15T14:24:43Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I don’t even like Bieber, but this is what irritates me. If it’s an entertainer we like (and Sedaris is awesome), all of a sudden the “sacredness” of Anne Frank’s house doesn’t matter anymore.
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> I just don’t understand how a reasonably normal teenager became the devil.

As I said above, he is NOT “the devil” - he’s a twit; there’s a difference. 😉

This isn’t about the sacrilegiousness of Anne Frank; he’s just being a twit…

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/52 "2013-04-15T14:28:56Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I just don’t understand how a reasonably normal teenager became the devil.

Having watched many TV cop shows I assume that, from your intials, you are in fact, Justin Bieber.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/53 "2013-04-15T14:41:47Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I don’t even like Bieber, but this is what irritates me. If it’s an entertainer we like (and Sedaris is awesome), all of a sudden the “sacredness” of Anne Frank’s house doesn’t matter anymore.
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> I just don’t understand how a reasonably normal teenager became the devil.

Because it’s tacky. I don’t think anyone is clutching their pearls over the defilement of the guestbook, just wrinkling their faces at the fart he left.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/54 "2013-04-15T14:59:47Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> As I said above, he is NOT “the devil” - he’s a twit; there’s a difference. 😉
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> This isn’t about the sacrilegiousness of Anne Frank; he’s just being a twit…

:smack:

I meant to say “This isn’t about the sacredness of Anne Frank…”

:smack:

**Inner Stickler** - exactly. He’s not the Devil; he’s a naughty boy. 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/55 "2013-04-15T15:11:24Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I don’t even like Bieber, but this is what irritates me. If it’s an entertainer we like (and Sedaris is awesome), all of a sudden the “sacredness” of Anne Frank’s house doesn’t matter anymore.
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> I just don’t understand how a reasonably normal teenager became the devil.

Because one of them was trying to be funny and the other was trying to be serious. One failed. Guess which?

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/56 "2013-04-15T15:15:34Z")

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I thought there was outrage because he said believer, as in that jesus dude.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/57 "2013-04-15T15:38:57Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Because one of them was trying to be funny and the other was trying to be serious. One failed. Guess which?

“If Anne Frank were a normal teenager alive today, I hope she’d enjoy my music” is about the safest thing he could have said. Using the stupid “Belieber” fan name probably wasn’t the smoothest move, but the sentiment isn’t tacky or inappropriate in any way.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/58 "2013-04-15T15:44:05Z")

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That’s not even close to the safest thing he could have said and I’m slightly agog that you apparently think so.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/59 "2013-04-15T16:00:30Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> That’s not even close to the safest thing he could have said and I’m slightly agog that you apparently think so.

Whatever. The point is, it’s not a controversial thing. And people are jumping on him anyway.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/60 "2013-04-15T16:06:44Z")

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I agree. It’s not a controversial statement. It’s a shallow and emotionally oblivious statement. (One which I would expect a 19 year old to know better than to say.)

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