# Latest Sign of the Apocalypse: Bieber at the Anne Frank House

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 14, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709 "2013-04-14T20:33:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/61 "2013-04-15T16:15:59Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I agree. It’s not a controversial statement. It’s a shallow and emotionally oblivious statement. (One which I would expect a 19 year old to know better than to say.)

Especially one who’s been coached in public behavior, unlike a lot of 19-year-olds.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/62 "2013-04-15T16:24:23Z")

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Do the photos of him that have just cropped up on TMZ where he’s posing in the basement of the house wearing a hoodie and hat and fake boxing with a member of his entourage help or hurt his case? Please keep in mind that it’s pretty expressly stared throughout the house that no pictures or videos are allowed.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/63 "2013-04-15T16:26:48Z")

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I’ve shared elsewhere on here my own “tasteless Anne Frank” story, but I’ll cut and paste it since it’s relevant:

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> When asked by an arrogant bastard of a professor to stand and tell the class the last line of Anne Frank’s diary “because I’m sure he knows it… he knows everything else” I stood and said “Gotta run, someone’s at the door”. Some of the class laughed, some didn’t get it, some were offended, and the professor tried to have me expelled. I thought it was good for no notice, though. And the line he was thinking of, “In spite of everything I still think people are good at heart”, was not the last line, which I did point out; he wasn’t happy to be corrected either.

But the professor really did try to get me in trouble for that one; fortunately the dean said it would be hypocritical since he laughed when he heard it (and he thought the professor was an arrogant bastard as well).

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/64 "2013-04-15T16:44:07Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I don’t even like Bieber, but this is what irritates me. If it’s an entertainer we like (and Sedaris is awesome), all of a sudden the “sacredness” of Anne Frank’s house doesn’t matter anymore.

But that was the point of Sedaris’ piece, that it was awful of him to feel that way about her home.

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**Author:** ![PurpleClogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@PurpleClogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PurpleClogs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/65 "2013-04-15T19:26:35Z")

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Why are we so quick to judge this guy who didn’t go to normal school like the rest of us, has lived with limited parental guidance, and probably signed his name with “You’re a great girl. Hope you’re a Beleiber” a few billion times?

I’m just impressed he took time out of his life to go someplace historic and educational. I just hope he had his shirt on and pants pulled up when he went.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/66 "2013-04-15T23:10:26Z")

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> [@PurpleClogs](#):
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> Why are we so quick to judge this guy who didn’t go to normal school like the rest of us, has lived with limited parental guidance, and probably signed his name with “You’re a great girl. Hope you’re a Beleiber” a few billion times?
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> I’m just impressed he took time out of his life to go someplace historic and educational. I just hope he had his shirt on and pants pulled up when he went.

Yeah he could’ve been out buying Range Rovers and Alpaca farms or snorting cocaine\* but he went to Anne Frank’s house and people are going “but he signed the guestbook the WRONG WAY!!!”

What I think he was trying to say was he wanted to be the kind of person someone like her would like if that makes any sense. It is aspirational not self-centered.

\*True Beliebers know Justin only snorts cocaine on Tuesdays.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/67 "2013-04-15T23:39:16Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Every airhead celebutante should be assigned a historical disaster.

Seconded. Motion carried.

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/68 "2013-04-16T01:11:37Z")

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This just in: 19 year old boy found to be egocentric.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/69 "2013-04-16T01:31:53Z")

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> [@moriah](#):
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> This just in: 19 year old boy found to be egocentric.

But not. Did you read any of the rest of the post?

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/70 "2013-04-16T01:38:41Z")

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Also she was totally a Directioner, duh.

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/71 "2013-04-16T04:49:59Z")

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> [@voguevixen](#):
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> But not. Did you read any of the rest of the post?

Yes, I did. I wonder what Justin thinks of it.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/72 "2013-04-16T05:04:06Z")

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You know who else would have liked Beiber, if he had lived long enough to go to one of his rad concerts, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/73 "2013-04-16T05:38:15Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> He may look like he’s 12, but he’s 19. That’s not a “kid”.

😕

That makes no sense. (Against my better judgement) I saw the 2010 remake of “We Are the World.” The kid at the beginning of that was clearly seven years old.

Besides, let’s face it, there’s nothing remarkable about a sixteen-year old kid being able to sing a vocal track into an AutoTuner. A ten-year old doing it without wetting himself? Worth at least as much as a mediocre cat video, probably.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/74 "2013-04-16T05:39:42Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> This. Tonedeafness caused by too much celebrity at too early an age.

Tonedeafness doesn’t matter any more; not in the age of AutoTune.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/75 "2013-04-16T05:48:57Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> “If Anne Frank were a normal teenager alive today, I hope she’d enjoy my music” is about the safest thing he could have said. Using the stupid “Belieber” fan name probably wasn’t the smoothest move, but the sentiment isn’t tacky or inappropriate in any way.

Yes it is inappropriate. Not specifically because of Anne Frank, though; because of AutoTune.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/76 "2013-04-16T05:55:02Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Of course I have to admit I laughed all the way through David Sedaris’s piece on touring the Anne Frank house. (He was apartment hunting in Paris at the time and claimed that the attic annex, far from being gloomy, was _exactly_ what he and his partner were looking for as a pied-a-terre.)

It must have been impressive to consider putting up with the killer commute from Amsterdam to Paris each day.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-sign-of-the-apocalypse-bieber-at-the-anne-frank-house/655709/77 "2013-04-16T14:41:47Z")

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