# Latest tract: "Walking dead" -- Will this become a ZOMBIE thread? (Heh.)

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**Created:** [September 3, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098 "2011-09-03T20:20:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/21 "2011-09-06T14:55:37Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> :rolleyes:  
> In the OT, \*\*Elijah raised a widow’s son \*\*& when a dead man was tossed into Elisha’s grave, he revived. **Not sure if Elisha raised anyone when he was alive**. Samuel’s spirit was raised by the Witch of Endor. He himself never raised anyone.

😕 Did you mean to ask about Elijah?

Appropos of not much, the one with Elisha and the widow’s son has a funny coda later on. The widow leaves the country because of famine, and when she comes back squatters have stolen her house. She goes to the king for redress. Meanwhile back at the [del]ranch[/del] palace, Elisha’s disgraced ex-disciple Gaichazi is telling the king “Elisha stories.” He finishes the one with the widow just as said widow and son are walking up to them… Needless to say, they live happily ever after.  
Er, end of hijack.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/22 "2011-09-06T14:59:07Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Is it only me, or is the nightmare at the beginning an interesting depiction at how evangelizing (fundie) Christians appear to outsiders - “Join us or die”?

Yeah that was my first reaction as well. Danny’s dream was a manifestation of the psychological pressure to conform and reject rational thought that was exerted on him by his aunt and uncle.

A couple of other notes. As always, it is surprising how despite the fact that Danny lives with his aunt and uncle who appear to be bible thumpers who will name drop Jesus at the drop of a hat, that Danny is totally unaware of the whole concept of Jesus.

Also, what’s the deal with Uncle John. Usually the pro-god people in a Chick tract are kind harmless looking old men. Uncle John looks like a mob boss. Aunt Emily on the other hand looks like a brainwashed chipmunk.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/23 "2011-09-06T15:01:09Z")

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I’ve always liked Stephen King’s snarky response to the question posed at the end of the tract:

_What does it profit a man to gain the whole world at the expense of his soul?_

King’s response (in _The Talisman_)

_It profits a man the world!_

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/24 "2011-09-06T19:08:52Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Is it only me, or is the nightmare at the beginning an interesting depiction at how evangelizing (fundie) Christians appear to outsiders - “Join us or die”?
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> You got to love the sensitive, caring, loving approach to deal with somebody who’s just woken in cold sweat from a nightmare - “Things are worse! And even worser!” Yeah, psychology must be something satanic in Chick universe.
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> But what I really found funny is the description of the soul - it has arms and legs and can wear a robe.
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> Anybody thinks that Chick has got some disease for which he gets medical Marijuana, or is he that crazy on his own?

Some good points. Chick is (except when it is inconvenient, of course) a hyper-literalist, and I think I recall the Bible speaks to the saved souls as being given robes prior to their bodies being restored in a much-later resurrection.

I loved the part wherein we are finally told explicitly that the soul, while resembling a physical body in some ways, is _ **indestructible** _. (It is still subject to the pain of burning, however.) That surely does explain why it can be combined with oxygen forever.

> [@tiltawhirl](#):
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> The evil heart/turnip/tomato thing appeared (with fangs!) in “Uninvited” and was discussed [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb//showthread.php?t=592133).

Thank you. It did seem to be a fairly recent tract. 🙂

> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Please clarify regarding Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as well, please.
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> I think the Soul Cake Duck has been explained well enough I don’t need him explained, thank you.
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> -Joe

Yeah, I have considered a whole new thread to cover the post-Res attributes of J.C. I do recall a couple of Legion of Super-Heroes guide-books for a version of D&D, giving relative scales for shared super-powers. A relatively small # of super-heroes and villains could duplicate all he could do.

Seems to me a comparison to Katnip (who has died at least three times, so has been resurrected at least twice) is in order.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Yeah that was my first reaction as well. Danny’s dream was a manifestation of the psychological pressure to conform and reject rational thought that was exerted on him by his aunt and uncle.
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> A couple of other notes. As always, it is surprising how despite the fact that Danny lives with his aunt and uncle who appear to be bible thumpers who will name drop Jesus at the drop of a hat, that Danny is totally unaware of the whole concept of Jesus…

It seems that after all these years of insisting that the true gospel message always has been easily comphehensible by every last person past toddler age, he is finally admitting that people may in some cases have a comprehension problem over it. (I’m sure that JTC sees the “Danny’s” of the world as just not very bright. I’d say that the main problem is that it is inherently convoluted because it makes no real sense. This is a conviction that took many years for me to come to, because of early religious brainwashing that made it seem as natural as anything.) Of course, in the Chickiverse, those who are eventually “saved” are quick to ask for clarification in a cooperative manner. (Panel 10A)

Even those who reject it will listen carefully first, then stay “unsaved” only because they want to keep on sinning, or are worried about what their friends will think.

_ **- The Other White Jack** _

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/25 "2011-09-06T19:39:51Z")

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“I hate those creepy things. If they catch me, they’ll make me just like them.”

Pretty much sums up how I feel about crowded Walmarts, Tea Party rallies, and evangalist fundamentalists.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/26 "2011-09-06T20:01:21Z")

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And why is it that when he gets caught and they say “now you will walk with us, we will be famileeeeee” this is some terrible nightmare? If I was having the same dream and found out that all the monsters wanted was to be friends and have someone to walk with instead of becoming their snack, I’d be pretty relieved…

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latest-tract-walking-dead-will-this-become-a-zombie-thread-heh/595098/27 "2011-09-06T20:55:23Z")

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Yay! The freaky-weird turnip-heart thing is back!

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