# Latin question **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 6, 2002, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734 "2002-06-06T20:28:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Candlemas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Candlemas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candlemas)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/1 "2002-06-06T20:28:41Z")
My father recently read that George Washingon’s family motto was “Exitus acta probat” which I understand roughly translates to “The end justifies the means”. Now that all the Candlemas’s are married and working on their own families, my father (obviously inspired by the Washingtons) has asked that all his children come up with family mottos. My wife and I have settled on “Love Redeems”. I know that “love” in Latin is “amor” and “redeem” in Latin is “redimo”, but I have no idea how to put the two together to form the sentence. Any help? I’d love to know how it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![andrew\_dupont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@andrew\_dupont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrew_dupont)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/2 "2002-06-06T21:03:36Z")
Well, what you want is _amor redimit_. The noun needs to be nominative singular, so leave it like it is…but the verb needs to be 3rd person singular instead of 1st person singular. _Amor, amoris_ is third declension; _redimo, redimere_ is third conjugation. ---
**Author:** ![andrew\_dupont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@andrew\_dupont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrew_dupont)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/3 "2002-06-06T21:09:12Z")
Well, what you want is _amor redimit_. The noun needs to be nominative singular, so leave it like it is…but the verb needs to be 3rd person singular instead of 1st person singular. _Amor, amoris_ is third declension; _redimo, redimere_ is third conjugation. ---
**Author:** ![xicanorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a88e57/32.png) [@xicanorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xicanorex)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/4 "2002-06-06T22:35:11Z")
I am sorry to hijack this post . .but . .I have also been looking for a motto for our soccer team. Right now we are down to two: 1. United We Will Win 2. You Will Never Walk Alone (borrowed from Liverpool). I know Spanish so translated into Spanish is: 1. Unidos Venceremos 2. Nunca Caminaras Solo. So would in Latin be: 1. Unitas Venci 2. ? Thanks! xicanorex ---
**Author:** ![Lost\_In\_Reality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Lost\_In\_Reality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lost_In_Reality)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/5 "2002-06-06T23:24:10Z")
United We Will Win: Coniunctus Vincebimus You Will Never Walk Alone: Tu numquam ambulabis solus I believe that is right. Someone will be around to correct any of my errors. ---
**Author:** ![Belrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@Belrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belrix)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/6 "2002-06-06T23:53:45Z")
Appropriate for my family would be “So Sorry We’re Late”. Anybody want to take that one on? -B ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/7 "2002-06-07T00:04:59Z")
That would be “conjunct **i** vincebimus”. In “you will never walk alone” you could skip the “tu” since the pronoun is only used for emphasis. ---
**Author:** ![Lost\_In\_Reality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Lost\_In\_Reality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lost_In_Reality)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/8 "2002-06-07T01:53:07Z")
Thanks **Arnold Winkelried** for pointing out that I forgot to pluralize united. So Sorry We’re Late: Ita Doleo, venimus seri. ---
**Author:** ![Lost\_In\_Reality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Lost\_In\_Reality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lost_In_Reality)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/9 "2002-06-07T01:54:34Z")
Ack, that should be "Ita dolemus, venimus seri. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/10 "2002-06-07T02:00:02Z")
Vincemus, not vincebimus. Vincere is third conjugation. Use solum, not solus: it is an adverb here (How will you walk? Never alone). Replace ita with multum. Ita means “so” in a different sense. ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/11 "2002-06-07T02:09:01Z")
Since we seem to have a number of nifty Latin experts wandering through this thread, I was wondering if someone could translate a motto for me … I’ve only heard it in English, as “Death Before Dishonor”. I recall translating it back to Latin as “Mors ante dedecus” but I don’t remember if I ever checked to make sure if it was right … ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/12 "2002-06-07T02:34:53Z")
The “mors ante” part is right. With “deducus” you were most likely aiming for “dedecoramentum” or “dedecationem”; there are many Latin words for [dishonor](http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/enggreek?lang=la&lookup=dishonor&type=begin&options=Sort+Results+Alphabetically). Pick an appropriate one and put it in the accusative case and there you go. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/13 "2002-06-07T10:09:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dragonblink \* > \*\*Since we seem to have a number of nifty Latin experts wandering through this thread, I was wondering if someone could translate a motto for me … I’ve only heard it in English, as “Death Before Dishonor”. I recall translating it back to Latin as “Mors ante dedecus” but I don’t remember if I ever checked to make sure if it was right … \*\* Alternatively, you might try **Morituri Nolumus Mori**. Is this correct Latin? **Sodomy non sapiens**. You got a problem with that? **Fabricati diem, pvnc**. ---
**Author:** ![Belrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@Belrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belrix)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/14 "2002-06-07T16:06:07Z")
So for “So sorry we’re late” would be “Multum dolemus, venimus seri” With my high-school latin, this is literally what? “Many sorrows, we came late” ?? ---
**Author:** ![QueenAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/d26b3c/32.png) [@QueenAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QueenAl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/15 "2002-06-07T18:37:12Z")
I feel awfully cheeky asking this, since it’s such a long phrase, but I do want to get it right, and I know that as it stands this phrasing is embarrassingly bad: ‘Nam homo morior, morior mundus. Cum nil mundus antecedo aut succedo, intus immortalis.’ That’s ‘For as a man dies his world dies with him. Nothing precedes or succeeds this world, thus it is internally eternal. Death is for other people.’ I’ve looked up Latin sites online, and read some of a Latin text book, but it would take a very long time before I could get all the tenses and grammar right in that phrase. Can somebody help me please? ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/16 "2002-06-07T19:53:51Z")
Nam cum moritur homo, secum moritur suus mundus. Nihil precedit succeditve hunc mundum, sic intrinsece perpetuus est. Mors ceteris est. There could be variations, naturally. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/17 "2002-06-07T20:00:20Z")
Nam cum moritur homo, secum moritur suus mundus. Nihil precedit succeditve hunc mundum, sic intrinsece perpetuus est. Mors ceteris est. There could be variations, naturally. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/18 "2002-06-07T20:09:13Z")
Nam cum moritur homo, secum moritur suus mundus. Nihil precedit succeditve hunc mundum, sic intrinsece perpetuus est. Mors ceteris est. There could be variations, naturally. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/19 "2002-06-07T20:14:23Z")
Nam cum moritur homo, secum moritur suus mundus. Nihil precedit succeditve hunc mundum, sic intrinsece perpetuus est. Mors ceteris est. There could be variations, naturally. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734/20 "2002-06-07T20:21:31Z")
Sheeyit. I kept getting the “error connecting to the server page” and so I resubmitted. Apparently a few too many times. Sorry about that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/latin-question/112734.md?page=2)