# Laugh at my horrible art **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 2, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506 "2003-08-02T05:13:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/21 "2003-08-03T07:03:07Z")
**astro** , don’t quite follow. Do you mean they’re too busy? or ??? Thanks for looking. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/22 "2003-08-03T07:41:21Z")
Wow, **capybara** , really appreciate the in depth criticism. Appreciate your comments about Hell and see how I could work that point into Globes. I’ll play with that. Also, appreciate the general point about complimentary colors and sizes. Could you tell me more about what you mean by “(many of the pictures on the second page) aren’t interestingly problematized in any way”? Should there be some sort of issue and/or resolution like one would find in a story? Also, could you tell me more about the formula you see throughout page two? In fact, all of them have a lot of formula to them as far as process of creation. To my eye, all are similar in the use of spheres, bright colors, (hopefully) intereting textures, and generally diagonal layout of things. Is there more formula about? I see your point about the color schemes of Go and Switch Plate. Go is a simulated picture of a game called Go that’s huge in the Eastern world (on par with Chess) but virtually unknown here. So the colors there were pretty much defined for me. But I do agree about Switch Plate; the color is tame. Was your 3d comment specific to any particular ones? Frankly, I don’t like Floating and agree with your assessment. Appreciate your overall comments. When you say “Play more with (…) problematising your objects’ boundaries-- try playing with softer or compromised edges.”, were you referring to objects in the pictures, or the edges of the pictures themselves? Also appreciate your comment on matting. In fact, I have one matted here in front of me that I can see would’ve been better with a different colored matt based on your suggestion; I’ll play with that. As I say, very much appreciate all the comments. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/23 "2003-08-03T07:46:15Z")
**Shirley Ujest** wrote > [@](#): > > Your colors are well done. Thank you very much. > [@](#): > > Personally, I like still lifes and portraits. The thing is, I do too. And I can’t draw those. At all. Not even stick figures. Which is why I feel my stuff is all crap. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/24 "2003-08-03T21:08:28Z")
Cool, thanks for the_oooh_, **XJETGIRLX**. Go is based on a game I like. Appreciate your kind words. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/25 "2003-08-04T12:20:15Z")
I like them… Roger Dean meets Magritte. Maybe you feel that they’re crap because you know all the components that are in them and can’t see the finished article in the same way as anyone else… I used to make techno/rave records and felt the same way, but now, after a time of not listening to them I can listen to them much more objectively. Keep it up… and I’m not being kind, I’m being honest (before you thank me for my kind words) ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/26 "2003-08-04T12:57:31Z")
There are some images there that have potential if they were actual paintings, but as mere computer printouts they are worth less than the nice frame they’d go in. Please put down the mouse and learn to draw and paint. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/27 "2003-08-04T13:23:16Z")
I think they are interesting, they remind me (if it isn’t an insult) of the sort of art that one sees in large corporate headquarters. I disagree with **RTA** ; they are worth whatever someone who likes them is prepared to pay. They are not ‘mere’ anything (any more than a painting is ‘mere daubs on canvas’) - there is nothing especially magical about physical media, but perhaps **RTA** ’s intent was more along the lines of ‘do not be content with that which you find easy’, in which case I would agree. ---
**Author:** ![ouisey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9fc29f/32.png) [@ouisey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouisey)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/28 "2003-08-04T17:39:03Z")
I don’t know anything about art, but I liked your pictures. Atoms was my favorite. I’d prolly hang that one on the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/29 "2003-08-05T00:40:46Z")
Thanks **bittersweet** , Touched is also one of my faves; it’s the only one hanging in my house. Sorry about the tummy ache from Hell. And thanks for the encouragement on selling them. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/30 "2003-08-05T00:41:48Z")
Thanks **LudditeAndroid** , for the first honest criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/31 "2003-08-05T00:44:05Z")
**mascaroni** , I appreciate the intros to Roger Dean and Magritte. Hadn’t heard of either gentlemen before and after a quick web search I like their stuff. Thanks for the encouragement. Oh and thanks for the kind words. heh heh. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/32 "2003-08-05T01:56:24Z")
You are following too closely in an avenue commonly used by others. Time pressure may be causing you to hurry past opportunities that might be revealed had you slowed down a bit. Consider distancing yourself from those who preceed you in the field. Such a precautionary measure might serve to reduce any risk of negative impact and simultaneously enhance your perspective. If you back off a little and proceed with more caution alternative paths to your true destination might appear more readily. What? … Isn’t this the tailgating thread?!? ---
**Author:** ![with\_withholding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58956e/32.png) [@with\_withholding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/with_withholding)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/33 "2003-08-05T03:09:45Z")
I liked the third page best (newest?) Next time put the new stuff up front. **Rainbow Atom Arrows and Balls Switch Plate GO** All would be decent downloads as rotating wallpaper. None elaborate enough to want to look at too many days. My taste would be for either fewer round balls or at least vary the texture a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/34 "2003-08-05T10:04:54Z")
Exciting development! There’s a nice restaurant/gallary that I eat at regularly, and I’ve met the owner a few times. Talked to him today and showed him a brochure I put together and he loves my stuff. (like I say, there’s one born every minute). As soon as I can get stuff there, we’ll hang it up. Figure I’ll put ten together this week. I’m thinking (based on feedback here and from others) that I’ll go with these: Touched The three Sunsets in one long triple holed frame like thing Hell Atoms Color Paths Join Go Arc Fire Leaf Eye Now I gotta work out sizes, matts and frames. I played with some colors for matts based on advice here, and I put that color as backgrounds behind the pics on the site. Any advice will be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/35 "2003-08-05T10:09:51Z")
Without wanting to in any way prejudice your creativity, I would consider changing some of the names - the short ones are good, but some of the multi-word ones are too coldly descriptive (IMO, YMMV etc) ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/36 "2003-08-05T10:11:40Z")
**RTA** , like you I also prefer seeing real paint on real canvas paintings, but the problem is – I can’t do that. Well, perhaps if I spent years I could be mediocre. Or I can do digital art and be mediocre now. I do appreciate the challenges doing digital art poses. But for me I’m afraid this is the best path. Thanks for the feedback though. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/37 "2003-08-05T10:14:23Z")
Thanks, **Mangetout**. Appreciate the encouragement, and validation of digital stuff. Also thanks for the suggestion to change the names. I’m totally up for this and am not attached to any of the names. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/38 "2003-08-05T10:17:57Z")
Thanks **ouisey** , appreciate the feedback. Funny thing about Atoms, it was a test picture initially and I threw it away, but a couple people liked it and so I included it. And it’s turing out to be one of the more popular ones. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/39 "2003-08-05T10:21:42Z")
Funny stuff, **Zenster**. Thanks for chiming in and not being too brutal. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506/40 "2003-08-05T14:55:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bill H. \* > \*\*Thanks, **Mangetout**. Appreciate the encouragement, and validation of digital stuff. > > Also thanks for the suggestion to change the names. I’m totally up for this and am not attached to any of the names. Any suggestions? \*\* Well… (and you must understand that I’m not speaking with any authority or even real relevant experience here)… I’d probably change: ‘Green Cell’ \>\> ‘Photosynthesis’ ‘Arrows and Balls’ \>\> ‘Conflict’ or ‘Deadlock’ ‘Stars & Planets’ \>\> ‘Constellation’ That kind of thing, but it is difficult to do this without it sounding pretentious (and I don’t claim to have succeeded). Thing is, if it was me creating them, I’d probably have more of an idea of what the image _means_ to me, even if it is created without specific intent, there would come a point when it starts to look like something and starts to evoke thoughts and feelings; these are what you have to capture and expand upon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/laugh-at-my-horrible-art/192506.md?page=3)