Just ask Bill Bennett about gambling, and the ghost of Ronald Reagan about divorces.
Second-largest, and IMHO for very good reasons. cite.
It *is * printed in tabloid format, and has been for decades. “Rag” is more a matter of opinion, but not its essential indistinguishability from the NY Post or London Daily Sun. Murdoch used to own the Herald and may again pending regulations softening. If you go by Pulitzers, the Herald news department hasn’t seen one since Hector was a pup.
Really?
What makes you assume she didn’t go there? Some background:
Looks like she left Africa behind her as soon as she got out of university.
This hasn’t been widely publicized (to the extent it’s true):
Plus, like “Billary” and “Algore”, “Te-RAY-za” has never killed anyone. Laura can’t say the same.
They aren’t even in the same league as far as wealth goes…as you know perfectly well. Hell, Bush isn’t even in the same league as THK…again, as you know perfectly well. Besides, as has been pointed out myriad times in this thread alone, THK and LB aren’t even in the same universe personality wise. My point was if THK was THB instead and spoke out like she does…ya, I think its safe to say the Democrats (and especially YOU) would have loads to say about it. Republicans would be giving her a pass for being ‘colorful’ of course. And if LB was LK instead, Democrats would be waxing poetic in extolling her virtues. I’m not really sure WHAT the Republicans would do…probably ignore her as she oozes ‘family values’.
THis was one of your lamest drive by’s yet btw…you need to try harder. :rolleyes:
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Did anyone else read the title of this thread to the tune of “Yellow Submarine”?
To bring a little nuance & perspective into things,
Reagan- his first wife left him, he was very hurt by it.
Gingrich- Conservatives are grateful for what he did in leading the Republican Congress which forced the Clinton Administration to move to the center; we were very disappointed in his adultery, divorce & remarriage & he is no longer considered a leader in the Movement (tho he still one of the best conservative policy analysts out there).
Bennett- his faith-tradition (Catholic) does not condemn gambling. His group Empower America did criticize the gambling culture for its social costs. There’s a level of political hypocrisy, tho gambling has not been a major issue on the EA agenda, but no religious hypocrisy. Anyway, Bennett claims that while he could well afford to gamble what he did, it was getting excessive & so he has curtailed it.
By & large Conservative Christians dislike the “easy-divorce” culture, condemn adulterous divorce/remarriage (the Gingrich type, which is what I believed JC condemned- not someone getting divorced & then remarrying someone they meet later), and recognize abandonment & abuse as legitimate grounds for divorce. That said, the ConC’tian community has had greater failings to “the easy divorce mindset” in recent years (my church has not been immune, sad to say.)
That’s all very well, but where the hell do they come off as representing standards of morality superior to those of the nonbelievers? That’s the problem that gets so many people angry and disappointed with them, the hypocrisy and sanctimoniousness, not the conduct itself. Agreed?
Actually, I don’t – I find the net worth of all the folks involved to be meaningless. As far as I’m concerned, the Bushes and the Kerrys are all in the financial category known as Having A Shtload More Money Than YOU’LL Ever See In Your Lifetime, Bub.*
Trying to say the Kerrys are “rich aristocrats” because they’re in the richest 1% of all Americans, while the Bushes are “jes plain folks” because they’re in the richest 2% of all Americans means diddly-squat to me.
It’s not nice to project your own personality problems onto other folks. 
Who said that? Not I. The Bush family is certainly NOT ‘jes plain folks’…they are undoubtably wealthy in the correct sense of the word. Kerry’s family, while not in the same league as the Bush clan, is certainly blue blooded enough, but Kerry’s family wasn’t wealthy either…just rich. Laura Bush didn’t grow up wealthy either…just rich. There is a huge distinction between the two. THK (or at least the Heinz part) certainly DID grow up in the upper reaches of wealth…not just rich but wealthy. It matters not one bit to ME…but then I’m a libertarian so I have no political axe to grind about how much any of them have.
Again, you are missing the point though…as usual. If the wives were reversed I have zero doubts Teresa Heinz Bush would be getting pounded on from the Democrats for being a ‘rich bitch’…and being excused by the Republicans for being ‘colorful’. I have no doubts that Laura Kerry would be being praised by the Democrats (‘she was a TEACHER!!!’) while probably being completely ignored by the Republicans.
Sure rjung. 
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Considering that Teresa Heinz was a RICH REPUBLICAN for years, married to a RICH REPUBLICAN Senator (H. John Heinz III), and was still very popular with Democrats and Republicans alike here in PA (as was her husband), that pretty much destroys THAT argument.
Oh, and I thought Laura Bush was a librarian? NOT knocking her-I think that’s GREAT that she’s a librarian-reading is important-I was just curious.
How does it destroy it? To me it reinforces it. She is being attacked now because she is outspoken…but MAINLY because she is an outspoken wife of a DEMOCRAT who potentially could be the next US president, being attacked by REPUBLICANS mainly. What, you don’t think reversals are possible and if she were married to Bush the Democrats would lower themselves to attacks against her…or that Republicans would defend her? :dubious:
How does the fact that in the past she was popular with both Democrats and Republicans? She was married to a SENATOR…and she also kept more of a low profile when she was married to him, not stumping like she is doing for John. Senator’s wives are basically ignored…potential presidents wives are not. President’s wives (or candidate’s wives) come under a bit more scrutiny…especially if they are assertive (like Hilary was).
I think I picked up the teacher thing somewhere but I can’t remember now. YOu are right though…she was a librarian. My bad.
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Truer words were never spoken.
Amen. I also have to laugh at how little flack such a supposedly devout Christian got from the right for calling someone a “major league asshole” during the 2000 campaign. I know, I know, he didn’t know a mic was on him. But isn’t God always supposed to be listening?
That is just not so. Are you projecting? I’ve been a Democrat since I understood the difference, but some of my favorite First Ladies have been Republicans. Betty Ford was aces for being so up front about her problems. Pat Nixon had as much quiet dignity as anyone in that position. I didn’t care for Nancy Reagan, but I did admire her devotion to the President. And I think that Laura Bush is very pleasant and the President is lucky to have her on his side.
Criticisms of Laura Bush are the exception to the rule. Her main shortcoming seems to be that in comparison to Teresa, she isn’t as “interesting.” But that’s just a matter of opinion anyway.
Nancy Reagan was known for using salty language around her friends. That was one of the things that made her more palatable to me. For heaven’s sake. These are grown women with grown children. Do you think nice women don’t curse?
What really distinguishes the current First Lady from all the others is not her considerable personal wealth, but that she once ran through a stop sign and killed a 17-year-old boy.
Teresa or Hillary can have their little gaffes and foibles but until such a time as they log their first confirmed kill, their alleged misdeeds will forever pale in comparison.
And again, it was an accident-although no, she shouldn’t have ran a stop sign. What do you want her to do-cover herself in sackcloth and ashes?
She hasn’t done anything. In fact she has barely acknowledged that the incident ever happened and refuses to answer questions about it.
Other First Ladies have used things that have happened to them as a springboard to helping the public by raising awareness. So Guinastasia, to answer your question, I would have liked to have seen Laura Bush use her experience to become the spokesperson for safe teen driving. Or maybe safe driving in general. She could have saved hundreds if not thousands of lives over the last few years.
Instead - quite very much like her husband - she seems to pretend that if you don’t acknowledge the existence of a mistake or a problem, it doesn’t exist, people will forget about it, and eventually it will go away on its own.