# Law and Order 9/22 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878 "2005-09-22T13:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/1 "2005-09-22T13:50:55Z")
Yawn. That was a pretty uneventful episode. I was watching pretty intently but when it ended I realized, man not much happened. It was just lawyers yelling at each other for an hour. I was a little disappointed with the dialogue too. “Did you think I wouldn’t find out?” Of course he didn’t think that - it was _kind of a high profile case_. I still like the ADA though - what’s her name, Borgia? Much better than the last one at least. Anyone else catch it? What’d you think? Is Law and Order finally running out of steam? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/2 "2005-09-22T14:24:16Z")
Didn’t see it, but do you mean a new DADA? Or is ADA McCoy replaced now, too? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/3 "2005-09-22T14:36:14Z")
Wait. Did McCoy get fired, or what? Christ, I hope not. He’s the sole proprietor of whatever soul that show has left. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/4 "2005-09-22T14:42:23Z")
McCoy isn’t fired. He means the new raven-haired ADA (McCoy is an EADA). I actually thought it was pretty good, a nice suspenseful “real-time” sort of case. The resolution did kind of fizzle though, and we never revisited the original lawyer whom Jack had arrested. Is Law & Order running out of steam? It has been for years. Getting rid of Elizabeth Rohm helped though, and I’m enjoying Ed Green more and more. With due respect to Dennis Farina, that guy can play a cop in his sleep; there’s nothing much interesting or suprising about him. Funny … when Branch told McCoy he’d never be a District Attorney, I thought of how cool it would be if they promoted Jack upstairs and brought someone new in to be EADA. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/5 "2005-09-22T14:57:22Z")
Branch: “You’ll never be DA.” McCoy: “Is it because I’m a lesbian?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/6 "2005-09-22T15:02:42Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Funny … when Branch told McCoy he’d never be a District Attorney, I thought of how cool it would be if they promoted Jack upstairs and brought someone new in to be EADA. Pretty unlikely happening. In the context of the show, “they” would be the governor, if a vacancy occurs in the office before an election. And the governor appoints a politically connected person… which McCoy is not. In real life, the DA’s office in Manhattan is an amaziing powerful position. You have a large staff that serves at your pleasure, a large budget, and ultimate prosecutorial discretion over the crimes that happen in Manhattan. For over thirty years, the spot was held by the legendary Frank Hogan. “Mr. Integrity.” Hogan was a top-notch prosecutor who enforced both trial excellence and discipline in his organization, and was so much of an institution that he often ran unopposed at election time. He died in 1973. There was a briefly unremembered political appointee, Dick Koh, who served for nine months. He was beaten soundly in the special election by Robert Morgenthau, who has served ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/7 "2005-09-22T15:04:22Z")
Adam Schiff was, by the way, modelled after Morgenthau. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/8 "2005-09-22T15:08:26Z")
Law & Order: Original Recipe is way past out of steam. I wanted to give it one more chance last night, to see what revamping they did, and I wasn’t able to hold interest at all. I finally turned it off 40 minutes in, not knowing or caring what the heck was going on in the plot. Thank god SVU is still going strong! ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/9 "2005-09-22T15:10:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Pretty unlikely happening. In the context of the show, “they” would be the governor I actually meant “they” in the sense of “Dick Wolf and company.” ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/10 "2005-09-22T15:57:35Z")
I still love Law & Order. Didn’t much care for last night’s episode, because there wasn’t really any twist to the mystery. I’m always fascinated by Lindsay Crouse, though. No matter who she’s playing, you’re never sure if she’s supposed to be sympathetic or not. Law & Order Classic is my comfort TV. Just the rhythms of it (the bomp-bomps between scenes, the white titles, the voices of the actors, the legal language) are satisfying to me. I only wish they would put more seasons on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/11 "2005-09-22T20:26:27Z")
I don’t know if had been done on previous episodes, but the clock changing minutes (2:48 to 2:49) on every title card was a little annoying. I can see it’s possible that it’s exactly the next minute every once in awhile, but not everytime they showed the time! ---
**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/12 "2005-09-22T23:45:32Z")
McCoy saying that Branch could fire him if he wanted to was a pretty good scene. The cop part of this one wasn’t very good, but I thought the lawyer part was good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/13 "2005-09-22T23:54:01Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Branch: “You’ll never be DA.” > > McCoy: “Is it because I’m a lesbian?” > > 😃 Did he really say that? HEH! (I can’t bring myself to watch it without Orbach.) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/14 "2005-09-23T00:27:02Z")
When the suspect revealed the location of the kidnapped girl, I wondered why the police hadn’t searched that location. It seemed like an obvious place to look. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/15 "2005-09-23T02:37:17Z")
I don’t really watch the show anymore unless _CSI:NY_ is a rerun (or isn’t on, which was the case last night). ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-9-22/322878/16 "2005-09-23T03:45:33Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > I still love Law & Order. Didn’t much care for last night’s episode, because there wasn’t really any twist to the mystery. Thank god! The over-reliance on the _“And you won’t believe the shocking twist!!”_ endings was a major factor in my getting sick of the show in the first place.