# Law and Order CI moves to USA **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 20, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926 "2007-09-20T23:29:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/1 "2007-09-20T23:29:33Z")
And I will be following it. I love this show so much I could care less what network it is on. I just want to see what is going to happen this season. I know that Vincent D’Onofrio’s character lost his mother so he will probably be out of it for a while. ---
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/2 "2007-09-20T23:40:06Z")
[QUOTE=iluvurmom] And I will be following it. I love this show so much I could care less what network it is on. I just want to see what is going to happen this season. I know that Vincent D’Onofrio’s character lost his mother so he will probably be out of it for a while. [/QUOTE] Not to mention he found out that His biological father might be a serial rapist and killer. ---
**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/3 "2007-09-20T23:48:15Z")
I know he has so much to deal with in this new season. I wonder how is going to be, if this will take away from his dynamic personality. I know they are going to be so worried about him. His character is one of my favorite parts of the show so I am really looking forward to seeing what happens. I feel like something might be up with his brother too the way he was acting with the mom situation. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/4 "2007-09-21T01:55:03Z")
[QUOTE=SanibelMan] Not to mention he found out that His biological father might be a serial rapist and killer. [/QUOTE] Man, rip off SVU much? Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great character, but I don’t see the need to add that part in. It was fine when it was just his schizophrenic mom (and himself probably being a tad schizophrenic too.) ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/5 "2007-09-21T03:16:27Z")
I would like to see them start paying attention to the legal side of things again. Last season, the show really should have been called _& Order: Criminal Intent_. Why they decided to bring in a new lawyer if they were just going to keep leaving her on the sidelines is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/6 "2007-09-21T07:46:38Z")
I’ve always liked Vincent D’Onofrio’s character. He’s colorful, not just the run of the street detective. Why, oh why, did they have to bring on Chris Noth? He makes [Fearless Fosdick](http://deniskitchen.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=bios.fosdick) appear multidimensional. Is it just because he’s prettier? ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/7 "2007-09-21T12:32:44Z")
I love this show, but I’m afraid we’re seeing the beginning of the jumping of the shark, when producers think they need to punch the show up a bit, make it a little more edgy. I’ve seen this on a lot of other good shows where the ratings apparently weren’t quite high enough (like the late, lamented _Boomtown_, where, among other things, they had to throw in a lesbian kissing scene that had absolutely no relevance to the plot line). I thought the episodes were _fine_, and the little bits of D’Onofrio’s back story they dribbled out were more than enough to keep my interest. _grumble_ ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/8 "2007-09-21T12:50:40Z")
[QUOTE=PoorYorick] I love this show, but I’m afraid we’re seeing the beginning of the jumping of the shark, when producers think they need to punch the show up a bit, make it a little more edgy. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I noticed that several times over the last season they added pop songs to the sound track, apparently trying to make the scenes more poignant or something. This seems to be a minor trend in dramas these days. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/9 "2007-09-21T13:55:12Z")
I’m frightened of what they think they need to do to spice up House. I saw the new crop of ducklings on the Emmy red carpet and apparently they will be eliminating one character each week…??? Bwah? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/10 "2007-09-21T13:57:22Z")
[QUOTE=picunurse] I’ve always liked Vincent D’Onofrio’s character. He’s colorful, not just the run of the street detective. Why, oh why, did they have to bring on Chris Noth? He makes [Fearless Fosdick](http://deniskitchen.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=bios.fosdick) appear multidimensional. Is it just because he’s prettier? [/QUOTE] As I remember Vincent D’Onofrio was exhausted by the production schedule, so Christ Noth was brought in to cut D’Onofrio’s workload. (They seem to alternate episodes.) ---
**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/11 "2007-09-21T15:01:41Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] As I remember Vincent D’Onofrio was exhausted by the production schedule, so Christ Noth was brought in to cut D’Onofrio’s workload. (They seem to alternate episodes.) [/QUOTE] Yup. So one week you get a good episode with Goren and Eames and the next week you have the night off unless you want to watch Detectives Dull and Boring. ---
**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/12 "2007-09-21T16:11:09Z")
[QUOTE=PoorYorick] I love this show, but I’m afraid we’re seeing the beginning of the jumping of the shark, when producers think they need to punch the show up a bit, make it a little more edgy. I’ve seen this on a lot of other good shows where the ratings apparently weren’t quite high enough (like the late, lamented _Boomtown_, where, among other things, they had to throw in a lesbian kissing scene that had absolutely no relevance to the plot line). I thought the episodes were _fine_, and the little bits of D’Onofrio’s back story they dribbled out were more than enough to keep my interest. _grumble_ [/QUOTE] I don’t think they think that at all. I mean if we just look at how colorful and edge D’onofrio’s character is there is no reason they would have to “try and punch of the show”. I think that they are just giving us more insight on the characters that we have come to love so much, which is great to me. I feel like knowing more of the characters past helps us understand what makes them tick and a good move on the production end. I know I am much more invested in the show knowing more about the characters. I actually like watching both of the different detective teams. My favorite is Bobby and Alex but they are both good and have a different approach that is good. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/13 "2007-09-21T16:15:32Z")
[QUOTE=iluvurmom] I don’t think they think that at all. I mean if we just look at how colorful and edge D’onofrio’s character is there is no reason they would have to “try and punch of the show”. I think that they are just giving us more insight on the characters that we have come to love so much, which is great to me. I feel like knowing more of the characters past helps us understand what makes them tick and a good move on the production end. I know I am much more invested in the show knowing more about the characters. I actually like watching both of the different detective teams. My favorite is Bobby and Alex but they are both good and have a different approach that is good. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but: . . . the son of a serial rapist? And the one he happened to be tracking?! To me, it’s crossed the line from giving us a bit of insight every week to making him into a freak. But I agree with you that everyone’s being a bit too hard on Noth. It’s still a good show. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/law-and-order-ci-moves-to-usa/419926/14 "2007-09-21T19:43:44Z")
[QUOTE=iluvurmom] I don’t think they think that at all. I mean if we just look at how colorful and edge D’onofrio’s character is there is no reason they would have to “try and punch of the show”. [/QUOTE] But again, with House he is a great character, and they feel the need to fire half the actors and replace them with a Survivor-type deal. Leave well enough alone; just show House, Cuddy and Wilson and we’ll be fine.