# Lawmaker: Disabled kids are God's vengeance for having an abortion **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485 "2012-09-12T08:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/1 "2012-09-12T08:41:45Z")
You’d think politicians would be minding their Ps and Qs on abortion but .. nope! [Lawmaker: Disabled kids are god’s punishment](http://www.wtop.com/41/1894168/Lawmaker-Disabled-kids-are-gods-punishment) > [@](#): > > RICHMOND – Western Prince William Del. Bob Marshall, R-13th, says disabled children are God’s punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy. > > He made that statement last Thursday at a press conference to oppose state funding for Planned Parenthood. > > “The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican. > > “In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.” > > Marshall was among more than 20 people, mostly Christian pastors and clergy, who gathered for the press conference in the General Assembly Building His website [http://delegatebob.com/](http://delegatebob.com/) ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/2 "2012-09-12T08:53:44Z")
Doesn’t abortion disqualify a child from being first born? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/3 "2012-09-12T08:55:18Z")
Jesus Fucking Christ. Are these people monsters? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/4 "2012-09-12T09:55:17Z")
What an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/5 "2012-09-12T09:57:46Z")
… wouldn’t the disability be the punishment for not aborting the disabled tyke? Oh wait: that would be stupid and cruel, but logical. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/6 "2012-09-12T10:23:44Z")
How is it that people who are so incredibly, profoundly, and _intentionally_ ignorant of science are allowed to run this country? It’s depressing. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/7 "2012-09-12T10:34:35Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Doesn’t abortion disqualify a child from being first born? He’s talking about subsequent births. ---
**Author:** ![spanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@spanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spanna)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/8 "2012-09-12T10:37:37Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > He’s talking about subsequent births. I think he was commenting on the “when you abort the first born” line You can’t abort a first born because it is never born ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/9 "2012-09-12T10:40:53Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Jesus Fucking Christ. Are these people monsters? Yes; yes they are. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/10 "2012-09-12T11:01:07Z")
Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/11 "2012-09-12T11:09:33Z")
Wonder if he told that to Sarah Palin. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/12 "2012-09-12T11:18:57Z")
> [@spanna](#): > > I think he was commenting on the “when you abort the first born” line > > You can’t abort a first born because it is never born Ah. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/13 "2012-09-12T11:27:09Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > How is it that people who are so incredibly, profoundly, and _intentionally_ ignorant of science are allowed to run this country? It’s depressing. Because people who are intelligent and rational realise they would never in a million years want to become politicians. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/14 "2012-09-12T11:37:39Z")
They think ALL kids are punishment for having sex, so really it logically follows that God would punish you extra harshly for your avoidance of previous punishment. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/15 "2012-09-12T11:38:05Z")
> [@astro](#): > > You’d think politicians would be minding their Ps and Qs on abortion but .. nope! > [Lawmaker: Disabled kids are god’s punishment](http://www.wtop.com/41/1894168/Lawmaker-Disabled-kids-are-gods-punishment) > > His website > > [http://delegatebob.com/](http://delegatebob.com/) If he would think about it, maybe he could see it isn’t saying much about a Supreme Being who would cause an innocent human suffering to get back at what they consider sinners, and if a person has a child with a disability they would not have had an abortion so that would surely be an insult to a Supreme Being! ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/16 "2012-09-12T11:40:24Z")
What is having a child who becomes a politician punishment for? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/17 "2012-09-12T11:50:07Z")
So, a child produced as the result of rape is a blessing, unless there has been a prior pregnancy terminated in which case the child is deformed as a punishment? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/18 "2012-09-12T11:58:13Z")
A child born of rape is a blessing, because the raped woman has already been appropriately punished for having a vagina. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/19 "2012-09-12T13:13:05Z")
I wonder when Rick Santorum’s wife had an abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485/20 "2012-09-12T13:17:14Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Jesus Fucking Christ. Are these \*\*people \*\*monsters? > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Yes; yes they are. They’re certainly monsters; I’m not sure they qualify as human beings (“people”), though. (Bolding in top quote mine) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawmaker-disabled-kids-are-gods-vengeance-for-having-an-abortion/634485.md?page=2)