Unfortunately, no. If it did, maybe he wouldn’t have capped the girl and would have handled the situation without using a firearm…
Three policemen fired fifteen shots at my former co-worker, Marquise Hudspeth. He was struck eight times in the back because the policemen thought his celphone was a weapon.
That’s all I’m gonna say about that.
-David
My point, GaWd, is that the cop is probably just as interested in not getting his finger lopped off as anyone else is.
[sean connery]Leave it to a WOP to bring a knife to a gunfight.[/sean connery]
Possibly. Of course that would require that the officer get close enough for the suspect to stab or slash with that knife. If I was coming at you with a knife how far away would you want to stop me?
Marc
A bullet resistant vest won’t generally stop a stab wound from a knife. They do make a stab resistant vest that some prison guards have started to use as well as police officers in England though. Of course even then someone could still be stabbed in the head, neck, arms, legs, or even through the vest itself since it isn’t stab proof just resistant.
Marc
GaWd, I’m just wondering how the cops were supposed to know the “large, dull knife” wielded by the belligerent woman wasn’t a “large, sharp knife”.
If only we had some non-lethal means to stop a teenager with a knife once a large number of grown police officers are at the scene.
If only…
Oh, wait, there are already dozens of them. A big enough butterfly net would work.
In Orlando a former police officer was gunned down during a drug bust when the (still) police told him to “get out of his car.” He apparently reached for his seatbelt to unlatch it and they pumped his car full of a few dozen bullets. That was a couple years ago, no charges were ever filed.
Beagle, the police tried a non-lethal means to down the teen, a taser. It didn’t work. How many times, how many different ways should they be expected to use non-lethal means when they are being threatened? You’re not going to get cops to use non-lethal weapons until they get stabbed, you get non-lethal until the police feel that they are in danger. At that point, they use the most effective weapon they have, the sidearm.
What’s the over/under on $50 million dollars?
Monty- My point is that upon seeing a “weapon” the pig automatically shot her. No shouted warning, no warning shot(which our local PD is allowed), no nothing. Boom dead.
Marc- A 90-pound vietnamese woman in her kitchen isn’t enough of a threat to kill on sight. The police were wrong.
Cheesesteak- THat’s why our police are supposed to be observant, not quick to make rash decisions and supposed to keep the public in their forethoughts before acting. A little Vietnamese girl in another room had what appeared to be a knife. A big bad man charged in and shot her. No talking, just shooting.
Stupid.
Sam
GaWd, if she was in another room with it, I’m on your side. If she’s close and waving it around, I can’t expect a guy to know for certain how sharp or dull a blade is, and risk getting hurt on that supposition.
Cheesesteak, the story is hazy at best at this point. THe police versions don’t match up, and the citizen’s version doesn’t match either police version.
AFAIK, she was shot from her living room while in the kitchen. Unfortunately, the story has gone [sub]very[/sub] quiet. We probably never will know the true story.
All I DO know is, a mother of 2 is dead, the police shot her without her advancing or threatening, and our Police Chief resigned over it.
Sam
Let’s see… Kid (of unknown size) who (possibly) defied a good tasering is now coming at cop with knife, and you want that cop to engage in hand-to-hand combat with said kid, knife against club…? Is that correct, was that your proposal?
Dunno about you, but to me that seems like simply asking the officer to offer himelf up for a good knifing.
A pig?!?!?
:rolleyes:
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The only thing that’s stupid is your post. Where you there? Were you aware of the circumstances?
Perhaps the officer was observant, perhaps his decision was well thought out, who the hell knows, these things go down in a matter of seconds.
Seeing how much of your ass is on the line when you shoot someone, I would imagine an officer would be damn sure of the situation before pulling the trigger. Are mistakes made? Sure, they are inevitable, but considering the pure amount of house calls and traffic stops, I don’t see a big problem of trigger happy cops.
P.S. calling them pigs makes you look like an ass.
DNFR
Again, I seriously doubt that anyone could withstand two taserings. Although I wasn’t there, and anything’s possible, that part of the police’s story made my eyebrows shoot above my forehead.
You’re right. Shouldn’t have used the term.
Anywho, here’s just one article on the shooting: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/6321944.htm
Various quotes:
It was less than a minute, entrance to shooting. The term “brandish” has been used, not threatened, nor advanced upon, Etc.
While I think it takes less than a miunute for an Officer to survey the situation, there certainly should have been much more care involved in this.
The above sums up my opinion quite nicely.
Sam
Well that, and don’t whip out a fucking 10 inch cleaver on a cop.