# Lawrence Taylor arrested for raping 16-year-old

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518 "2010-05-06T15:52:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/41 "2010-05-07T04:49:57Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> No, being prostituted makes you a prostitute.

Then it’s forced prostitution. Doesn’t mean she can’t be raped. Prostitutes can still be rape victims.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/42 "2010-05-07T04:52:12Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Then it’s forced prostitution. Doesn’t mean she can’t be raped. Prostitutes can still be rape victims.

I never said she wasn’t a rape victim. She’s a rape victim and that’s fucking horrible.

I just like being anal (heh heh).

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/43 "2010-05-07T05:02:14Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I just like being anal (heh heh).

You’re not being anal, you’re being wrong.

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> But if he didn’t, then my reaction is meh.

I guess the question is going to be if Taylor knew she’d been beaten and was being forced to have sex with him.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/44 "2010-05-07T05:05:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You’re not being anal, you’re being wrong.

If you say so. 😛

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/45 "2010-05-07T05:05:48Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> If you don’t understand why it’s wrong for a man in his 40’s to bang a girl who’s 16, then I think it’s been a very long time since you’ve had a conversation with a 16 year old girl.

The good people of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington and West Virginia disagree with you.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/46 "2010-05-07T05:12:29Z")

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The people of those states can all kiss my ass. It’s sleazy and unethical even when there’s consent, and in this case, there was no consent. She wasn’t a prostitute. She was a kidnapped child brought there to be raped against her will. I don’t see how you can call that “meh.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/47 "2010-05-07T05:12:35Z")

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[It sounds like the police are saying Taylor didn’t beat the girl.](http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?columnist=oconnor_ian&id=5169717) And he was charged with solicitation and sexual assault, not battery or anything of that type.

[More details:](http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5167613)

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> Police said the girl was reported missing by her family in March and had been staying with a 36-year-old parolee, Rasheed Davis, in the Bronx. The two met a few weeks ago at a Bronx bus stop, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said.
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> “He chats her up. She explains she doesn’t have a place to stay. He provides one,” Browne said.
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> Davis then forced her to perform sexual favors for others, authorities said.
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> Early Thursday morning, Davis punched and kicked her, drove her to the hotel against her will and told her she had to have sex with Taylor, police said. When she refused, Davis handed her over to Taylor, who sexually assaulted her, they said. Taylor paid her $300, which she gave to Davis, police said.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/48 "2010-05-07T05:19:40Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The people of those states can all kiss my ass.

Hey genius, you’re one of those people. It’s perfectly legal for you to bang a 16 year old neighbor should you have one and an interest in doing so.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/49 "2010-05-07T05:34:23Z")

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I don’t and any 40 year old who does is a sleazeball. I don’t care what the law says.

You’re still missing the bigger point that this girl was not consenting, by the way.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/50 "2010-05-07T05:39:28Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> No, being prostituted makes you a prostitute.

No, being prostituted makes you a _ **victim of rape** _. Try the phrase on for size, because it’s the only one that fits. A prostitute, whatever the merits of his/her choice to enter that line of work, earns some benefit from that work. _This_ young girl earned no benefit whatsoever by being passed around to all the various and sundry perverted cohorts of this sleazebag parole violator.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/51 "2010-05-07T06:18:21Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> If you don’t understand why it’s wrong for a man in his 40’s to bang a girl who’s 16, then I think it’s been a very long time since you’ve had a conversation with a 16 year old girl.

If you’re referring to Lawrence Taylor, I just read that he’s actually in his 50’s!

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/52 "2010-05-07T09:36:23Z")

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Don’t know how many of you caught the arraignment of LT, but his lawyer seems a bit “out there”. Clearly, he wants to make a name for himself, but he looked and sounded like a complete jackass.

This looks pretty bad. Based solely on what I’ve heard so far, we have a $300 payment to a pimp (who was also arrested), a runaway 16 year old girl who was picked up by one of her parents, and LT getting busted.

His lawyer claims there was no sex, which means that LT paid $300 to sit and talk to the poor girl about life. It’s all a misunderstanding! The lawyer also said something that was eye opening. In arguing for a reduced bail, he said that the majority of these felony cases are plead down to misdemeanors. WTF kind of argument is that?

I think he’s screwed.

Really? LT, a 51 year old man, one of the greatest linebackers in history has to pay to have sex? And his woman of choice is an underage girl? This is just sad.

I’m betting he gets the maximum sentence.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/53 "2010-05-07T11:28:12Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> I’m betting he gets the maximum sentence.

Despite what I said earlier about Class E felonies, I saw ESPN reported that he could get up to four years. I don’t know if that’s because of his own record or the other circumstances surrounding this, or what.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/54 "2010-05-07T15:14:17Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Really? LT, a 51 year old man, one of the greatest linebackers in history has to pay to have sex? And his woman of choice is an underage girl? This is just sad.

A lot of richer and way more attractive not to mention currently popular celebrities pay for prostitutes. It is not the sex they are paying for. We also don’t know if the girl being underage was his choice, he might have just called for a hooker and they sent her that one.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/55 "2010-05-07T15:33:18Z")

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One that he went ahead and did against her will, even after her pimp had already given her a black eye for saying no.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/56 "2010-05-07T15:58:03Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> You’re still missing the bigger point that this girl was not consenting, by the way.

He isn’t being charged with forcible rape. He’s being charged with a class E felony. If the DA thought he forced her against her will it would be a much higher letter. I assume that would be a Class A felony, and would carry a higher maximum penalty than 4 years. His charges are soliciting a prostitute and statutory rape.

If he beat her and forced her, I’d want to see him do more time than a lousy 4 years.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/57 "2010-05-07T16:04:22Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> One that he went ahead and did against her will, even after her pimp had already given her a black eye for saying no.

From the way it was described in the link it looks like the lack of consent came before the girl was ever brought in to him. I’m just saying there is a difference between forcibly raping an underage girl and calling for a hooker and getting an underage girl who was beaten into prostitution.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/58 "2010-05-07T16:06:53Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> He isn’t being charged with forcible rape.

I don’t care what he’s charged with. She wasn’t consenting, and he _knew_ she wasn’t consenting because her pimp had already given her a black eye for saying no.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/59 "2010-05-07T16:08:54Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t care what he’s charged with. She wasn’t consenting, and he _knew_ she wasn’t consenting because her pimp had already given her a black eye for saying no.

Yeah its not like call girls put on make up or anything. Once again you are jumping to conclusions, you have no idea what happened besides what you’ve made up in your messed up brain.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lawrence-taylor-arrested-for-raping-16-year-old/538518/60 "2010-05-07T16:09:47Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> From the way it was described in the link it looks like the lack of consent came before the girl was ever brought in to him.

He knew she’d been punched in the face, and this wasn’t some kind of normal escort service. I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know what he was paying for.

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> I’m just saying there is a difference between forcibly raping an underage girl and calling for a hooker and getting an underage girl who was beaten into prostitution.

I see no difference whatsoever. It’s exactly the same thing.

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