# Leaked DNC emails show primary process rigged **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 22, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627 "2016-07-22T20:46:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/21 "2016-07-22T23:35:44Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > The word “rigged” these days seems to mean “I don’t know how this thing works but I seem to be losing at it.” Brilliantly put. Quoted for truth. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/22 "2016-07-22T23:39:30Z")
Silly me, I didn’t realize the point of the primaries was to vote for the candidate the DNC had already chosen. How dare anyone else run against their candidate! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/23 "2016-07-22T23:54:21Z")
Well, as that is not what happened, you may dream on. Just don’t drag the rest of us into your fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/24 "2016-07-23T00:00:53Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Silly me, I didn’t realize the point of the primaries was to vote for the candidate the DNC had already chosen. How dare anyone else run against their candidate! They preferred Clinton in 2008, but fell behind Obama when he won. If Sanders had won the primary, they would have done the same. You think Reince Priebus wanted to be up on that stage Thursday endorsing Donald Trump? Hell no, but it was his job. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/25 "2016-07-23T00:02:02Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > So: irrelevant. I’m not familiar with The Hill, the cited publication, but clearly they have an agenda which is attempting to seriously slant this news into something more significant than it really is. I don’t know what the general viewpoint of The Hill is, but they ran that utterly moronic story claiming that Hillary’s spoken “sigh” was her mistakenly reading out loud a stage direction off a TelePrompTer — [http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/teleprompter-gaffe-flub-oops-blunder-hillary-clinton-sigh](http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/teleprompter-gaffe-flub-oops-blunder-hillary-clinton-sigh) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/26 "2016-07-23T04:50:42Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > The word “rigged” these days seems to mean “I don’t know how this thing works but I seem to be losing at it.” Wonder if Trump will use that excuse in November, should he lose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/27 "2016-07-23T05:26:08Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I will now sit and watch the responses from the Hillary fan boys who will insist that this is not wrong, nothing happened, it’s Bernie’s fault, and anyone who dares to criticize even Hillary’s friend is evil. Luckily we have the Democratic party to preserve democracy by preventing it. What makes you think the Democrat’s or Republican’s primaries are supposed to be democratic? Yes, it’s rigged. That’s a feature, not a bug. The parties need to do what helps them win. And I say that as Bernie supporter. The general election needs to be democratic, but the selection of party representatives is a different thing. For legitimacy, they need to have some semblance of democracy, but not so much as it produces… someone like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/28 "2016-07-23T06:01:36Z")
Seriously, how much does [this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u4awa/leaked_dnc_emails_reveal_secret_plan_to_take_on/) reflect any significant number of people out there? I can’t imagine it does, considering Clinton won, but seriously, a highly voted comment says that Trump is the better choice over Clinton for progressives because he’ll just bluster and not be able to do anything. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/29 "2016-07-23T06:39:45Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > who cares; he was and is a communist. Any responsible political party needs to keep that kind of thing under wraps. Tell me that’s a joke. Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/30 "2016-07-23T06:46:56Z")
More shitty optics. I’m waiting for the Dems to stop helping Trump win. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/31 "2016-07-23T08:26:39Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > who cares; he was and is a communist. Any responsible political party needs to keep that kind of thing under wraps. Please learn what words mean before using them. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/32 "2016-07-23T08:40:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Seriously, how much does [this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u4awa/leaked_dnc_emails_reveal_secret_plan_to_take_on/) reflect any significant number of people out there? I can’t imagine it does, considering Clinton won, but seriously, a highly voted comment says that Trump is the better choice over Clinton for progressives because he’ll just bluster and not be able to do anything. Wow. I didn’t read the linked thread, but it just occurred to me – might we want to raise the voting age back to 21? Heck, let’s make it 25. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/33 "2016-07-23T10:14:40Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > who cares; he was and is a communist. Any responsible political party needs to keep that kind of thing under wraps. Better a commie then an Israel Firster. ---
**Author:** ![dreamregent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6f9a4e/32.png) [@dreamregent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dreamregent)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/34 "2016-07-23T10:45:29Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > who cares; he was and is a communist. Any responsible political party needs to keep that kind of thing under wraps. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you even know what the defining characteristic of communism is in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/35 "2016-07-23T10:59:16Z")
Wake me up when the DNC prevented a single Sanders vote from being counted during the primary. /Rip Van Winkle ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/36 "2016-07-23T11:10:17Z")
Yeesh. You want to miss your chance to vote in the general? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/37 "2016-07-23T12:43:43Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I didn’t read the linked thread, but it just occurred to me – might we want to raise the voting age back to 21? Heck, let’s make it 25. Let’s make it 25 to 55. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/38 "2016-07-23T14:31:45Z")
I read the Hill article and the linked emails and then went on to read more of the email dump. First off, “20,000 leaked emails” sounds impressive until you look at the dump and realize that it’s seemingly 13,000 morning news blasts from CNN, Politico, Reuters, etc. It’s emails “sent or received by the DNC” so there is a LOT of spam sent to the DNC included in that. Out of the few emails noteworthy enough to get linked, they are mainly a catty one-liner appended to a forwarded new story, the DNC doing push-back on news stories and apparently the system was “rigged” because people in the DNC were calling Clinton the “presumptive nominee” when Sanders was mathematically eliminated but a few states had yet to vote. There’s one distasteful email where someone suggests hitting Sanders on religion but, since that never happened during the campaign, the idea seems to have been shot down. Really, I went into this thinking I was going to read “Ok, here’s the plan to nullify all of the Sanders votes and drive him out of the race” and got “This is a silly story. He isn’t going to be president” as a response to a story about how Sanders would change the DNC if elected. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/39 "2016-07-23T14:39:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What makes you think the Democrat’s or Republican’s primaries are supposed to be democratic? Yes, it’s rigged. That’s a feature, not a bug. The parties need to do what helps them win. And I say that as Bernie supporter. The general election needs to be democratic, but the selection of party representatives is a different thing. For legitimacy, they need to have some semblance of democracy, but not so much as it produces… someone like Trump. If the desired outcome is a rigged election, the government should play no part in the primary process. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/40 "2016-07-23T14:47:01Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > If the desired outcome is a rigged election, the government should play no part in the primary process. It doesn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627.md?page=3)