# Leaked DNC emails show primary process rigged

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 22, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627 "2016-07-22T20:46:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/141 "2016-07-26T18:48:18Z")

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Bernie’s speech convinced me to vote for Hillary last night. I love that man, and I want to give him a hug.

Hate “Bernie Bros” all you want… But Bernie is a great man IMHO.

We can’t let Trump win.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/142 "2016-07-26T19:10:12Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Bernie’s speech convinced me to vote for Hillary last night. I love that man, and I want to give him a hug.
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> Hate “Bernie Bros” all you want… But Bernie is a great man IMHO.
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> We can’t let Trump win.

It \*was \*a damn good speech.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/143 "2016-07-26T20:26:12Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m completely confused by this controversy. What’s the big deal? The DNC preferred Clinton and worked against Bernie.

I am even more confused: supposedly this was a leak of 20,000 emails, but the only thing we’ve heard is that a few of them discuss playing up Sanders’ Judaism in Southern states. Which apparently was not done.

So, yes, the DNC pushed things towards its preferred candidate.

Some DNC staffers talked about a fairly ugly tactic to that end, but the tactic was never used.

Did I miss something?

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/144 "2016-07-26T20:44:08Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I am even more confused: supposedly this was a leak of 20,000 emails, but the only thing we’ve heard is that a few of them discuss playing up Sanders’ Judaism in Southern states.

I don’t know that this makes a difference, but they discussed playing up his _atheism_ in Southern states, not his Judaism.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/145 "2016-07-26T20:53:53Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I am even more confused: supposedly this was a leak of 20,000 emails, but the only thing we’ve heard is that a few of them discuss playing up Sanders’ Judaism in Southern states. Which apparently was not done. . . .

That’s how I see it, too: they talked about dirty tricks, and didn’t employ them. To me, it’s like “Climategate.” A bunch of emails that talked trash, but didn’t actually contain any “smoking gun.”

The only meat on these bones is the Democratic Party’s superdelegate system, which does “rig” the overall outcome – and Sandiers knew all about that going in. No one needed leaked emails to blow the cover off that deep, dark secret: it was in the rules package that Sanders and Clinton both signed when they applied to run.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/146 "2016-07-26T20:57:06Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> \<snip\>Hate “Bernie Bros” all you want… But Bernie is a great man IMHO.\</snip\>

Sanders’ supporters did far more to turn me off of him than his own politics. I don’t deal well with screeching.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/147 "2016-07-26T21:08:41Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> That’s how I see it, too: they talked about dirty tricks, and didn’t employ them. To me, it’s like “Climategate.” A bunch of emails that talked trash, but didn’t actually contain any “smoking gun.”
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> The only meat on these bones is the Democratic Party’s superdelegate system, which does “rig” the overall outcome – and Sandiers knew all about that going in. No one needed leaked emails to blow the cover off that deep, dark secret: it was in the rules package that Sanders and Clinton both signed when they applied to run.

Yep.

But the fat is the Democratic Party’s unfair and undemocratic\* caucus \*system, which allowed Bernie a chance. So, the “system” helped Bernie far more than it hurt.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/148 "2016-07-26T21:19:40Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I don’t know that this makes a difference, but they discussed playing up his _atheism_ in Southern states, not his Judaism.

Oh. I misread the context. Same thing.

Point being, it’s not the DNC’s job to maintain some kind of level playing field, but to ensure the “right Democrat” is chosen to carry their standard. So much of the bitching so far is from people who don’t understand the difference between primary and general elections…

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/149 "2016-07-26T21:54:39Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Oh. I misread the context. Same thing.
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> Point being, it’s not the DNC’s job to maintain some kind of level playing field, but to ensure the “right Democrat” is chosen to carry their standard. So much of the bitching so far is from people who don’t understand the difference between primary and general elections…

But, but… “We wuz robbed!”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/150 "2016-07-26T21:59:40Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It \*was \*a damn good speech.

And it may be the reason he delivers Clinton’s \*nominating \*speech tomorrow. Rumor has it.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/151 "2016-07-26T22:53:50Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And it may be the reason he delivers Clinton’s \*nominating \*speech tomorrow. Rumor has it.

Bernie is entering Hilary for nomination right now. This is how you do it.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/152 "2016-07-26T23:02:26Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/153 "2016-07-26T23:06:43Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> **bernie is entering hilary** for nomination right now. This is how you do it.

brain bleach! Stat!

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/154 "2016-07-26T23:25:52Z")

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None of that proves the primary was rigged. It just shows the DNC wanted Hillary as the nominee.

Had Sanders won more votes, he would’ve been the nominee. The GOP didn’t want Trump as their nominee, but he won the most votes.

There is a huge difference between ‘the DNC and official democratic party wanted Hillary to win’ and ‘the primary was rigged so Sanders couldn’t win’. Sanders still could’ve won, he just didn’t have enough votes.

Had this been a closer election, then this would be a bigger issue. But Sanders would’ve lost regardless.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-dnc-emails-show-primary-process-rigged/760627/155 "2016-07-27T03:25:48Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Putin’s dirty-tricks department sent the flying cybermonkeys to try to top the American election toward the candidate who proposes to throw the Baltic States under the bus. Color me shocked. :rolleyes:

> [@JohnT](#):
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> And the few remaining Bernie Bros, not seeing or caring that we have just witnessed a foreign power try to influence a US Presidential election, are more concerned about rehashing their tired arguments than joining their purported leader in stopping Donald Trump and winning for the Democratic party. Color me shocked. :rolleyes:

Did the flying cyber monkeys plant information, or did they just reveal it? Sure it is a bad thing that someone got their email hacked, but the content of what was revealed is the sole responsibility of those who wrote it.

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