# Leaked report of Russian blackmail of Trump

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 10, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846 "2017-01-10T23:59:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/1 "2017-01-10T23:59:58Z")

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[New bombshell](http://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.miJeBw0QG#.cgVrXq6xG)

[Full report here (warning, PDF)](http://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf)

Highlights include prostitutes, golden shower shows, and of course, treason.

Apparently The FBI had this but decided to hold off on it during the election. Good thing about those Clinton emails though…

Unverified as of yet, but not good…

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/2 "2017-01-11T00:10:02Z")

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Well, he does like all things gold…

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/3 "2017-01-11T00:11:51Z")

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This can be my birthday and Christmas present if true.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/4 "2017-01-11T00:13:13Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This can be my birthday and Christmas present if true.

No kidding! Loving it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/5 "2017-01-11T00:17:10Z")

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“A former British intelligence” honcho. Well, OK, how “former”? Don’t know as how info more than a year or so old is going to rattle my cage any. We already know that Il Douche had many business dealings in Russia, America has already swallowed that and said “Mmm-mmm good!”.

Plus, its been around the block a few times, if there was anything in it that would really go “bang!” it would have by now. Feh, meh, and “next!”.

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**Author:** ![somepumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@somepumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/somepumpkin)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/6 "2017-01-11T00:19:31Z")

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From the linked article, “It is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors.”  
😕

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/7 "2017-01-11T00:28:47Z")

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While none of the allegations in that “report” seem in the least implausible to me, I would nonetheless bet that the whole document is a hoax.  
Like the joke about Dan Quayle wishing he had worked harder at studying Latin so he could converse with people in Latin America, it sounds like the sort of thing that seems believable because it perfectly matches the public image of the person in question, not because it’s actually factual.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/8 "2017-01-11T00:28:53Z")

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> [@mozchron](#):
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> [New bombshell](http://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.miJeBw0QG#.cgVrXq6xG)
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> [Full report here (warning, PDF)](http://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf)
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> Highlights include prostitutes, golden shower shows, and of course, treason.
> 
> Apparently The FBI had this but decided to hold off on it during the election. Good thing about those Clinton emails though…
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> Unverified as of yet, but not good…

Nothing Bill Clinton and JFK haven’t done.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/9 "2017-01-11T00:29:55Z")

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The golden showers would at least explain his hair color.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/10 "2017-01-11T00:38:59Z")

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Trump noticeably changed his tune when briefed last week.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/11 "2017-01-11T00:40:31Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> … I would nonetheless bet that the whole document is a hoax.

Me too. I’m wondering if Dan Rather found this alongside the Bush National Guard memos.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/12 "2017-01-11T00:40:43Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> No kidding! Loving it.

Loving what appears to be Fake News? I thought fake news, and Americans’ affinity for it, was supposed to be bad.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/13 "2017-01-11T00:40:51Z")

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“Leaked report” Oddly fitting title

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/14 "2017-01-11T00:41:32Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Loving what appears to be Fake News? I thought fake news, and Americans’ affinity for it, was supposed to be bad.

She was responding to my comment, which specifically stated “if true”.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/15 "2017-01-11T00:46:30Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> The golden showers would at least explain his hair color.

The OP is “a bit” misleading on that front. If you read the actual article it’s not what you think.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/16 "2017-01-11T00:51:40Z")

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trump tweet:  
6:45 pm “Not true that I hired Russian prostitutes to perform urination show for me. And they were not very good at it anyway. Sad!”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/17 "2017-01-11T00:53:30Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> She was responding to my comment, which specifically stated “if true”.

And I was responding to a statement made in the present tense. The whole thing about fake news is that it only works when people WANT the fake news item to be true. That’s the root of the problem-- judging the value of a news item not by the likelihood of its veracity, but the likelihood of it re-enforcing one’s political stance (and especially when it hurts the other side).

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**Author:** ![Swithin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Swithin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swithin)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/18 "2017-01-11T00:53:55Z")

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> [@somepumpkin](#):
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> From the linked article, “It is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors.”  
> 😕

[QUOTE=Buzzfeed]

The report misspells the name of one company, “Alpha Group,” throughout. It is Alfa Group. The report says the settlement of Barvikha, outside Moscow, is “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates.” It is not reserved for anyone, and it is also populated by the very wealthy.  
[/QUOTE]

Not that this confirms the veracity of the report in any way, but the “errors” are spelling the common word “Alpha” in the traditional transliterated-from-the-Greek way with the “ph” rather than using Alfa Group’s variant spelling, and a barely-contestable characterization of the rich part of town.

It’s interesting to finally read this, but I’m surprised no-one pointed out that all these allegations were reported (sans explicit description of the supposed kompromat) months ago. The Mother Jones and Slate articles were discussed here in detail on Halloween, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/19 "2017-01-11T00:55:55Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> trump tweet:  
> 6:45 pm “Not true that I hired Russian prostitutes to perform urination show for me. And they were not very good at it anyway. Sad!”

Don’t be making shit up, **John** is on duty!

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/20 "2017-01-11T00:56:38Z")

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Carl Bernstein of Watergate-breaking news fame is on the byline of this story on [CNN.com](http://CNN.com).

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