# Leaked report of Russian blackmail of Trump

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 10, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846 "2017-01-10T23:59:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/21 "2017-01-11T01:14:26Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump noticeably changed his tune when briefed last week.

Howso. I heard that last week both Trump and Obama were briefed about Russian attempts to compromise Trump, but I haven’t seen any changes in Trump since then.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/22 "2017-01-11T01:17:15Z")

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The point is that intel let Trump know that these stories were going around. He knows if they’re true or not. If true - Now he knows they know.  
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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/23 "2017-01-11T01:19:34Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Howso. I heard that last week both Trump and Obama were briefed about Russian attempts to compromise Trump, but I haven’t seen any changes in Trump since then.

He stopped saying that Russia didn’t do it immediately following that briefing.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/24 "2017-01-11T01:20:23Z")

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I ain’t got no time to read 35 pages.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/25 "2017-01-11T01:23:27Z")

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Alternatively… I always thought it was especially stupid of Trump to trash our intelligence agencies the way he did. This ain’t the “good ol’ days” of JEHoover, but still. You don’t piss in to the wind, you don’t fuck around with the CIA.

Just kidding. Mostly…

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/26 "2017-01-11T01:35:15Z")

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He just nominated Bolton as #2 at State. Bolton rabidly hates Russia, so there’s that.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/27 "2017-01-11T01:35:59Z")

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This whole thing started as a hoax on 4chan /pol/ :

> **[/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #95568919](https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#95571329)**
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> 4plebs archives 4chan board /pol/ - Politically Incorrect

A lot of people are going to get fired 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/28 "2017-01-11T01:38:46Z")

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Can you point to the part of that link that is your cite?

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/29 "2017-01-11T01:41:02Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> The point is that intel let Trump know that these stories were going around. He knows if they’re true or not. If true - Now he knows they know.  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, and from what I’m hearing they wouldn’t have included it if they didn’t think some of it was true or at least consistent with the information they have. I said **some** , not all. Also a lot of the errors will be because this is raw intel, it’s literally an unpolished report of what someone said. Some of it may be true, some of it may be a lie, some of it may be mistaken but believed to be true by the person who said it, etc etc.

One easily checkable thing is to see if Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen was in Prague. He’s on twitter right now saying he’s never been and posting pics of the outside of his passport. Of course, they don’t stamp the outside, and when traveling inside the EU they don’t stamp the inside either.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/30 "2017-01-11T01:54:42Z")

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I bet they have evidence he’s fucked Ivanka.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/31 "2017-01-11T01:57:24Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I bet they have evidence he’s fucked Ivanka.

That’s been my bet all along.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/32 "2017-01-11T02:02:30Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> While none of the allegations in that “report” seem in the least implausible to me, I would nonetheless bet that the whole document is a hoax…

I’m inclined to agree. I’m not sure if “good” is the right word, but this sure seems too something to be true. :dubious: If it is true thought Trump is even worse than I thought.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/33 "2017-01-11T02:02:53Z")

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[https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png](https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/34 "2017-01-11T02:04:43Z")

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You’re not serious.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/35 "2017-01-11T02:12:23Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Yeah, and from what I’m hearing they wouldn’t have included it if they didn’t think some of it was true or at least consistent with the information they have. I said **some** , not all. Also a lot of the errors will be because this is raw intel, it’s literally an unpolished report of what someone said. Some of it may be true, some of it may be a lie, some of it may be mistaken but believed to be true by the person who said it, etc etc.
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> One easily checkable thing is to see if Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen was in Prague. He’s on twitter right now saying he’s never been and posting pics of the outside of his passport. Of course, they don’t stamp the outside, and when traveling inside the EU they don’t stamp the inside either.

Yeah, I have a healthy skepticism regarding this story, but I don’t understand what he was trying to prove by posting a pic of his passport. That he has one?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/36 "2017-01-11T02:14:52Z")

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The Washington Post article didn’t link to the PDF report in the OP, just that they believe Russia “has” something on Trump (like daughter fucking, I bet).

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/37 "2017-01-11T02:16:37Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> [https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png](https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png)

I’m not sure I can take the word of an anonymous internet guy about this being a hoax.

I think Trump needs to produce his long-form passport to prove he wasn’t in Russia.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/38 "2017-01-11T02:17:37Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> [https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png](https://i.sli.mg/3UN0TD.png)

Either you or your source seems to be mixed up about the content of the “leaked report”. Your cite quotes some anonymous messageboard denizen with an aversion to capital letters talking about the dissemination of some alleged “fanfiction [mailed] to anti-trump pundit rick wilson about trump making people piss on a bed obama slept in”.

The linked “report”, on the other hand, alleges that Trump hired prostitutes in Moscow to perform a urination show for him.  
All that shows is that the author of the “fanfiction” perceived some similarities between his plot and the “report” content and jumped to the conclusion that the “report” incident must have been copied from his “fanfiction”.

Authors jump to this sort of conclusion all the time, as we see from the innumerable plagiarism lawsuits where an author insists that key features of a somewhat similar (but usually far more successful) artwork must have been stolen from their own.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/39 "2017-01-11T02:18:44Z")

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The New York Times is reporting that there are unsubstantiated reports that the Putin regime supplied Trump with prostitutes in order to obtain blackmail material. Again, they are currently “unsubstantiated,” but the NYT would have to feel pretty confident to even go this far.

> **[Trump Received Unsubstantiated Report That Russia Had Damaging Information...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)**
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> The material was considered so potentially explosive that the intelligence agencies decided that the president and the president-elect needed to be told and that the agencies were actively investigating it.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/40 "2017-01-11T02:19:20Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> I ain’t got no time to read 35 pages.

That’s OK, we’ll do it for you.

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