# Leaked report of Russian blackmail of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 10, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846 "2017-01-10T23:59:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/81 "2017-01-11T04:20:55Z")
trump can take about an hour on the tower of power, as long as he gets him some golden showers ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/82 "2017-01-11T04:27:35Z")
- Obama Shave ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/83 "2017-01-11T04:28:39Z")
Somehow I don’t think that the electorate that yawned at multiple allegations of Trump sexually assaulting women will care much about allegations that he hired sex workers to piss on each other. Because, Killery’s emails!!! How does one blackmail Trump, by the way? Isn’t blackmail based on the premise that the victim will cave to the blackmailer’s demands to avoid embarrassment? Just how the fuck do you embarass Trump? What could _possibly_ cause his supporters to desert him or his opponents to have a lower opinion of him? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/84 "2017-01-11T04:32:50Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Somehow I don’t think that the electorate that yawned at multiple allegations of Trump sexually assaulting women will care much about allegations that he hired sex workers to piss on each other. Because, Killery’s emails!!! > > How does one blackmail Trump, by the way? Isn’t blackmail based on the premise that the victim will cave to the blackmailer’s demands to avoid embarrassment? Just how the fuck do you embarass Trump? What could _possibly_ cause his supporters to desert him or his opponents to have a lower opinion of him? And yet it seems to have gotten under his thin skin sufficiently to drive him to blast out his butthurt in ALL-CAPS. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/85 "2017-01-11T04:33:19Z")
The peeing part isn’t the important part. The important part is that he’s alleged to have worked with/been used by the FSB. If he paid them for intelligence, that’s treason, right? Or does it have to be a country we’re in a declared war with? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/86 "2017-01-11T04:38:28Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > [New bombshell](http://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.miJeBw0QG#.cgVrXq6xG) > > [Full report here (warning, PDF)](http://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf) > > Highlights include prostitutes, golden shower shows, **and of course, treason.** > > Apparently The FBI had this but decided to hold off on it during the election. Good thing about those Clinton emails though… > > Unverified as of yet, but not good… This JUST surpassed “90% of the brain” on the list of overused nonsense! Mozchron, you win a Straight Dope DVD set. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/87 "2017-01-11T04:39:44Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Says who? > > I may be missing something, but AFAICT there’s been no evidence presented for the provenance of the report. From the CNN article: > [@](#): > > The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. […] Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago. That’s not to say that the details are all 100% but it seems like they have confidence in the broad strokes. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/88 "2017-01-11T04:44:23Z")
The thing about the golden showers allegation is that the report claims the Russians have **video** of the incident. We don’t know exactly what our noble President Elect was doing during the episode but I can guess he was not sitting there in a suit and tie looking Presidential. The reason why this is a big deal is that Russians are apparently using the video to **blackmail** Trump. Do X, Y, and Z or we will release the video. Which would explain why Trump is praises Putin every chance he gets. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/89 "2017-01-11T04:45:12Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Even if Trump stepped down from the Presidency today, I believe that it would still just go to Pence. And, realistically, it’s more likely that Trump would continue to push forward with the Presidency in the hope that it all went away on its own (or via FSB magic), until full impeachment proceedings had completed, so we wouldn’t see any results until after the weeks or months after the inauguration. John was being sarcastic. The presidency would indeed to go Pence should Trump step down today. Unless Pence was involved too. Then Paul Ryan wins and we still all lose, but in a more traditional run-of-the-mill kind of way. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/90 "2017-01-11T04:46:28Z")
The real conspiracy? The Republicans knew about this all along. They planned on releasing it after the election results were finalized but before Trump took office. They’ll force him to resign and Pence, the conservative they really wanted, becomes President. Of course, I made all that up … or did I? ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/91 "2017-01-11T04:49:51Z")
[This picture](http://i.imgur.com/VNHIV1M.jpg) will need a color update. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/92 "2017-01-11T04:52:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The real conspiracy? The Republicans knew about this all along. They planned on releasing it after the election results were finalized but before Trump took office. They’ll force him to resign and Pence, the conservative they really wanted, becomes President. > > Of course, I made all that up … or did I? > **[John McCain passes dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts to FBI](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts)** > > Russian intelligence alleged to have compromising material on Trump, say unverified reports drawn up by western ex-counter-intelligence official This alleges McCain knew about this. I can never keep track though, is the Guardian one of the trash British papers? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/93 "2017-01-11T04:54:06Z")
Here’s a great movie plot: Trump never wanted to run his hobby campaign beyond a couple months, but the Russians kept bribing him to continue on. Then they started blackmailing him, all the while he just wants to get out, but doesn’t want to get taken down by the Russians and/or go to prison, so he just keeps on campaigning-- but campaigning really, really badly, and saying really stupid shit, even leaking offensive video of himself-- hoping and praying he can just finally lose this fucking election already and go back to just being a shitty businessman with a lot of gold plated crap in his houses and banging hot chicks on pool tables… ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/94 "2017-01-11T04:56:03Z")
Finally having time to read the entire thing, I think it’s legit. That doesn’t mean everything is 100% accurate. Just… legit. Now, whether or not Trump was having golden shower parties or maybe he just stiffed some hookers that decided to make up the story is unknown, but this is a company that issues periodic intelligence papers to customers on subjects they’d be interested in and it’s filled with inner workings of Russian politics on a scale that would be tedious to fake unless you’re conversant on the inner workings of Russian politics. There is quite a bit that can be corroborated and substantiated given a little time. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/95 "2017-01-11T04:56:44Z")
> [@skdo23](#): > > Right, how could the Russian government possibly have even known which hotel the Obamas stayed at during their last official visit, let alone which room. Not only that, but they were able to ensure that Trump got the _exact same room_! When I went to Vegas last spring I had to slip the desk clerk a twenty to get a room overlooking the strip. No way Putin has that kind of cash to throw around. You’re kidding, right? Perhaps not, but it’s child’s play to have that information. This is how the KGB worked in the bad old days, and there is no reason not to think it’s still how Putin, a former KGB officer, operates. When I traveled in Eastern Europe during the SSR days on a diplomatic passport, it was assumed that your hotel room was bugged, both with cameras and listening devices. Every time I went to Prague or Warsaw or any other bloc country, I was given the same hotel room each time. This happened to all of us who routinely traveled in that part of the world. When we went to restaurants, we were always given the same table, because that was one of the bugged tables for westerners. Nearly everyone who worked in hotels where westerners were directed to stay were KGB operatives, likely now FSB officers. The State Department thoroughly indoctrinates young officers and staffers as to what to expect and what to look out for in terms of compromising situations. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if all of this about Trump is true, because he has had no security training and probably believes that his wealth protects him somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/96 "2017-01-11T04:58:29Z")
I’m sorry…im losing track of all the “Trump bombshells”…is this the one where Tom Arnold has tapes of Trump using the N-Word or is it “Russia has hacked Vermonts electrical grid?” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/97 "2017-01-11T04:58:49Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Gotta say that I don’t even understand why having prostitutes pee on each other on a bed that someone you hate once slept on would be considered retribution. Considering Trump’s level of intellectual and emotional maturity, I’d say it’s perfectly in character for him. > [@Bayard](#): > > How does one blackmail Trump, by the way? Leak a copy of his bank statement and/or a dick pic. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/98 "2017-01-11T05:02:02Z")
The New York Times confirms the BuzzFeed document is the one that has been circulating in intelligence circles. It is not fan fiction. [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html) > [@](#): > > BuzzFeed News became the center of a swirling debate over journalistic ethics on Tuesday after its decision to publish a 35-page document carrying explosive, but unverified, allegations about ties between the Russian government and President-elect Donald J. Trump. > > The document, a dossier prepared by a former British intelligence officer hired by Mr. Trump’s political opponents, had been circulating among high-ranking politicians and some journalists since the fall. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/99 "2017-01-11T05:02:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > You’re kidding, right? Um, no Chefguy I was dead serious. Especially about Putin not being able to spare $20.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/100 "2017-01-11T05:02:34Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > You’re kidding, right? Yes, **skdo23** was kidding. S/he mistakenly thought **Okrahoma** was suggesting that it was a highly improbable coincidence for Trump to be given the same suite the Obamas had previously occupied, which would indeed be a naive suggestion (although it didn’t happen to be the suggestion that **Okrahoma** was actually making). The “how could the Russian government have known” etc. was sarcasm. (ETA: Why yes, I am painfully literal.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846.md?page=6)