# Leaked report of Russian blackmail of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 10, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846 "2017-01-10T23:59:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/161 "2017-01-11T15:09:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I prefer PeekiLeaks myself… Weekileaks. Let’s not all Russian with the puns, now. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/162 "2017-01-11T15:10:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Weekileaks. Trumps Pee-Male scandal. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/163 "2017-01-11T15:12:54Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > _How??_ > > I was thinking last night that if this were 1974, the truth of this story would be the proverbial ‘smoking gun,’ and Republicans would join with Democrats to push Trump out of office, preferably before he took office. > > But I don’t think we’re in 1974 anymore, Toto. The GOP holds all the cards, and AFAICT there’s nothing short of criminal indictments nearly certain to result in Trump’s being convicted of felonies that would cause them to bail on Trump at this point. And that might not even do it. > > And while I intellectually agree with the notion that the whole pissing thing is a distraction from the _real_ crimes here, his real crimes haven’t exactly undermined his support. At this point, ridiculing Trump with piss jokes seems to be a more effective weapon against him than anything else we’ve got. If this has any legs, it will make him a laughing stock. His ego cannot stand to be laughed it, it will consume him, he’ll spend all day every day tweeting his innocence and ridiculing his accusers. Sure, Republicans would allow a ham sandwich to sit in the Oval Office if it could sign all the tax cuts for the wealthy they will put in front of it. But they’ve also got their eye on 2018 and 2020, and they might decide it’s time to cut their losses and impeach him over this. The base will come back, as they always do. But would the base tolerate evidence of such a strange sexual preference? They’ve already given him a pass on his record of sexual assault, maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/164 "2017-01-11T15:15:54Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > People have already said it but it bears repeating; the peeing hookers story is a distraction from the real problem that we’ve known about for months, which is that Trump is heavily in debt to Russian banks and/or mobsters and/or the Russian government. What’s your source for this claim? Here’s a 12/12/16 article from [Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/guide-donald-trump-debt) listing who Trump owes money to. No Russians or Russian banks on the list. (They do speculate that a Russian bank could theoretically buy Trump debt from the current creditors.) I’ve not known about this for months, and apparently MJ hasn’t either. Who exactly has known about these supposed Russian debts for months? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/165 "2017-01-11T15:28:11Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Some people claim that it’s impossible that anyone ever WINS the lottery - the odds are 100 million to one! > > You seem to be claiming that no one would ever even PLAY the lottery - the odds are 10 to one! Cmon. Why not just blackmail Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/166 "2017-01-11T15:32:05Z")
With what? An e-mail scandal? That wouldn’t matter after she was elected. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/167 "2017-01-11T15:38:21Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Why not just blackmail Hillary. With what? Her flaws were already well known. And its not like they would get comprising info on her if she was in Moscow etc… She wold be very aware of the potential for bugging. Again, I don’t know if the brief is true. But if even a fraction of it is, then it’s very bad news for trump. My guess tis that the more salacious elements aren’t true, but that some of the more treasonous elements (BY Trump or his handlers) are. But time will tell. Either way, the story seems to have legs. Its not going away. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/168 "2017-01-11T15:44:22Z")
From MSNBC: "Senior U.S. intel official tells NBC News that Trump, Russia dossier is “unvetted disinformation” > ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/169 "2017-01-11T15:47:02Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’d love for the story to be true since it would pretty much kill his administration in the crib. . . No it won’t. His true believers will continue to believe and Republican officials will continue to go along because PARTY OVER COUNTRY. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/170 "2017-01-11T15:49:42Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > From MSNBC: "Senior U.S. intel official tells NBC News that Trump, Russia dossier is “unvetted disinformation” > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/819191141174120452) Possible. After taking down Hillary, Putin’s next target could be Trump if his true target is the USA not just Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/171 "2017-01-11T15:53:05Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > If this has any legs, it will make him a laughing stock. Emphasis added. Please tell me you’re kidding. Please. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/172 "2017-01-11T15:54:03Z")
Quoth George Takei: “Tinkle tinkle little czar, Putin put you where you are” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/173 "2017-01-11T15:55:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Emphasis added. Please tell me you’re kidding. Please. He already is, to many of us. But that urine stream may just erode his Teflon coating a bit among his True Believers. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/174 "2017-01-11T16:08:39Z")
… and the fake news keeps falling apart. > The “dossier” claims Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague to confer with the Russians. Now Tapper says it was a different Michael Cohen. Of course, he kinda has to since Michael Cohen was in California at the time and has never been to Prague in his life. Wonder if the usual suspects will claim that even though it was a different Michael Cohen, he was still working for Trump. Hilarious. The great outcome of this is continuing utter discrediting of the Trump-derangement-syndrome affected media sources. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/175 "2017-01-11T16:08:55Z")
Good for a laugh. Possibly NSFW. > **[Look, These 'Golden Shower' Jokes Are Just Funny, OK?](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/golden-shower-twitter-real-life_n_5875a89be4b092a6cae3e190)** > > Do we know it's true? No. Does that make these tweets any less funny? Once again, no. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/176 "2017-01-11T16:13:13Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > But they’ve also got their eye on 2018 and 2020, and they might decide it’s time to cut their losses and impeach him over this. If I were playing the black pieces, so to speak, I’d just shrug and say to myself, “the Dems haven’t beaten us in a midterm since 2006 and have no strength anymore in most states, so I don’t have to worry about 2018. And even if we lost the White House in 2020, chances are excellent that we’d still control the House. Why mess with things before they show they can beat us?” ETA: For example, take a look at the 2016 Senate races. The Dems had lots of good opportunities in the wake of the Tea Party’s good year in 2010. But even when Hillary was 6 points ahead, Senate control looked like it was poised on a knife-edge. If I’m a GOP elder, I’m going to keep on doing what seems to be working until the Dems can make it not work anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/177 "2017-01-11T16:16:37Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > If I were playing the black pieces, so to speak, I’d just shrug and say to myself, “the Dems haven’t beaten us in a midterm since 2006 and have no strength anymore in most states, so I don’t have to worry about 2018. And even if we lost the White House in 2020, chances are excellent that we’d still control the House. Why mess with things before they show they can beat us?” These impeachment fantasies are really signs of desperation. How can someone who can rub two neurons together not understand what an enormous stupid self-inflicted injury it would be on a political party to have the only successfully impeached President in modern history? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/178 "2017-01-11T16:16:54Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > If I were playing the black pieces, so to speak, I’d just shrug and say to myself, “the Dems haven’t beaten us in a midterm since 2006 and have no strength anymore in most states, so I don’t have to worry about 2018. And even if we lost the White House in 2020, chances are excellent that we’d still control the House. Why mess with things before they show they can beat us?” But will they? The party in the White House nearly always loses House seats in the midterm, and the Republican majority isn’t that great as it is. So if Dems pick up a near majority in 2018, I’d say that in 2020 they have a great chance for a sweep, assuming they field a better candidate and the Republicans field the same one. Not to mention, that 2020 Senate map is ripe for Democrats to reclaim seats. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/179 "2017-01-11T16:17:43Z")
Some people are so scared of a Trump presidency, they’ll believe anything, no matter how preposterous, and no matter how much substance the allegations lack. What happened to being wary of “fake news”, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leaked-report-of-russian-blackmail-of-trump/776846/180 "2017-01-11T16:19:38Z")
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