# "Leave Donald Alone!" Pleads His Press Secretary **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 2, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125 "2017-01-02T04:23:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/221 "2017-01-04T20:28:29Z")
Russia is now good. Putin is wonderful. Trump has spoken, and **SA** now believes these are facts. This is because liberals are all commie lovers. That is why Putin is great. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/222 "2017-01-04T20:31:33Z")
I for one welcome our new KGB overlord and his orange puppet. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/223 "2017-01-04T20:41:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Liberals are the ones who love government… Then why do Conservatives want to force people to remain at one job, or else lose health insurance, instead of allowing people the freedom to make their own jobs? Why do conservatives insist upon having control over women’s bodies? Why do Conservatives want to forbid people from loving who they want to? Remember when a university education was tuition-free, and the United States made gigantic strides in the sciences? Why do Conservatives want to prohibit people from seeking higher education, unless they want to keep people uneducated so that the government can have power over them? Why do Conservatives want to effectively repeal the First Amendment and set up a theocracy, instead of allowing people to worship as they please? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/224 "2017-01-04T20:43:14Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Liberalism is communism? Didn’t. Know. That. Of course it is. If people are allowed to remain healthy and contribute to the economy, the United States automatically becomes North Korea. Just like Denmark. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/225 "2017-01-04T20:50:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Posters like\*\* SA \*\*literally do not understand why we do not show obedience to authority. It is simply beyond his comprehension that anyone would not simply obey and believe whatever the authority figure tells him. > > If Trump tweets tomorrow that henceforth, cats will now be called dogs… the that is EXACTLY what **SA** will do. He will swear on a stack of bibles that the animal meowing at his feet is a dog. Yesterday it was a cat, but now IT IS A DOG. Because the authority told him so. > > Trump is now the authority. His words are law. When Trump says Assange is terrific, THEN ASSANGE IS TERRIFIC. It matters not what Trump said before. > > This is really all you need to know about Trump’s followers. Dude… dafuq are you talking about? Please stop making me come to SA’s defense. This is stupid. > [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Wow! He can tell what I’m thinking and believe?! What evil magic is this? > :eek: By definition, a political liberal is someone who wants a larger government. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/226 "2017-01-04T20:52:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I notice that since the announcement of the automation that trump has been silent on the deal. I guess losing jobs to automation is OK as long as the lost jobs were American. Will the robots be American? That way he can still claim that he saved American jobs. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/227 "2017-01-04T20:58:27Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > This isn’t “fake news”: this is what Spicer actually said. (post shortened) It’s the asshole Jason Easley’s article that qualifies as fake news. Spicer made a statement of fact. I assume the asshole Jason Easley chose his words to appeal to the haters (aka his readers). The OP chose to lower the standards of Hillary worshippers everywhere by quoting a quote that was never actually made. Probably an effort to spread the asshole Jason Easley’s fake news. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/228 "2017-01-04T21:00:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Now that Trump says Putin is a great guy, and Russia is a terrific place, then: > > Trump supporters say “PUTIN IS A GREAT GUY. RUSSIA IS A TERRIFIC PLACE”. > > Trump could literally name Putin as his chief advisor, and have him installed in the Whitehouse, and Trump supporters would have no problem with this. > > Trump could hand Kim Jong-Un the codes to US submarine nuclear launch codes, and Trump supporters would praise his cleverness. Hmmmm. This looks like more fake news. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/229 "2017-01-04T21:05:56Z")
If anyone would know fake, it’d be you, Captain Recreational Outrage. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/230 "2017-01-04T21:07:18Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > By definition, a political liberal is someone who wants a larger government. Is this supposed to be Republican parody? There is one brand of Republican that proclaims that “conservatives” want smaller government, but they only want government out of areas where they want freedom and are happy to enlarge government in areas where they want government to enforce their values. Reagan campaigned on “smaller government” and left office with a larger one. While the government continued to grow under Obama, (which could be expected in country in which services were provided to a growing population), Obama’s 10% growth was much smaller than George W. Bush’s 17% growth. Both liberals and conservatives want smaller and larger governments; they just disagree on which sections should be smaller or larger. “Smaller government” just happens to be a catchphrase for a certain segment of conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/231 "2017-01-04T21:12:57Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > It’s the asshole Jason Easley’s article that qualifies as fake news. Spicer made a statement of fact. I assume the asshole Jason Easley chose his words to appeal to the haters (aka his readers). Spicer lied, attributing several acts to Trump with which Trump was not involved. He then said, “And instead of trying to mock him or undermine him, it’s time that people started to give him credit for actually getting things done.” Spicer presented no facts. He simply whined that the man who has spent months mocking all sorts of people–usually lying in the process–should not have to put up with being mocked. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/232 "2017-01-04T21:33:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Do you have any evidence for this claim? > The only company with whom he has been involved was Carrier, where his VP-elect, not Trump, did the heavy lifting. > Every other claim he has made, whether it was Ford, or Sprint, or whomever, was a lie in which he tried to take credit for decisions made in the months before the election. > I see no evidence that he has been “working hard” on any of this, (or much else besides using Twitter to throw temper tantrums that other people are treating him they way that he treats people). > > What is the point of noting that his promise was a key point in his campaign when he as publicly shrugged off so many other campaign promises? Begging your pardon, but has President-Elect Trump already assumed the power of the President? Has President-Elect Trump’s cabinet been seated? Imagine the audacity of any President-Elect keeping, or breaking, campaign promises before he assumes the authority of President. I wonder what the U.S. Congress has to say about every President’s pre-inauguration campaign promises. AFAIK, Obama is still President. Shouldn’t Obama be getting the credit for keeping Carrier, Ford, Sprint, or whomever’s job from leaving the U.S.? After all, he’s worked so hard to keep U.S. jobs in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/233 "2017-01-04T21:45:39Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Begging your pardon, but has President-Elect Trump already assumed the power of the President? Has President-Elect Trump’s cabinet been seated? Imagine the audacity of any President-Elect keeping, or breaking, campaign promises before he assumes the authority of President. I wonder what the U.S. Congress has to say about every President’s pre-inauguration campaign promises. > > AFAIK, Obama is still President. Shouldn’t Obama be getting the credit for keeping Carrier, Ford, Sprint, or whomever’s job from leaving the U.S.? After all, he’s worked so hard to keep U.S. jobs in the U.S. When he took office, the economy was losing 700K+ jobs a month and unemployment was over 10%. The economy is now adding 150K to 200K jobs per month and unemployment is below 5%. So yeah, Obama deserves some fucking credit for keeping jobs in the US. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/234 "2017-01-04T21:47:29Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Spicer lied, attributing several acts to Trump with which Trump was not involved. He then said, “And instead of trying to mock him or undermine him, it’s time that people started to give him credit for actually getting things done.” > > Spicer presented no facts. He simply whined that the man who has spent months mocking all sorts of people–usually lying in the process–should not have to put up with being mocked. That’s the usual fare from the President’s, or soon-to-be-President’s, press secretary, isn’t it? Haven’t you noticed, Trump seems to be immune from being mocked. At least from being mocked by the Democrat collective, and haters in general. Spicer made a statement of fact followed by the usual press secretary’s why-can’t-we-all-get-along speech. The asshole Jason Easley jumped at the chance to dangle string in front of the Democrat collective, and they leaped at the chance to hate the Hillary-beater one more time. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/235 "2017-01-04T21:50:54Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Haven’t you noticed, Trump seems to be immune from being mocked. At least from being mocked by the Democrat collective, and haters in general. Spicer made a statement of fact followed by the usual press secretary’s why-can’t-we-all-get-along speech. You’re fucking delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/236 "2017-01-04T21:51:39Z")
Among the differences between Obama and Trump is that Obama isn’t a braggadocios narcissist with a pathological need to keep his name on everyone’s lips, to the point of taking credit for things he had no hand in. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/237 "2017-01-04T21:54:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > When he took office, the economy was losing 700K+ jobs a month and unemployment was over 10%. The economy is now adding 150K to 200K jobs per month and unemployment is below 5%. So yeah, Obama deserves some fucking credit for keeping jobs in the US. When Obama took office, the country was still reeling from the effects of the sub-prime ARM debacle. A bubble that the U.S. Congress and banking committee made possible. Since there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the U.S. economy, any idiot could have watched the economy recover. Way to go Obama. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/238 "2017-01-04T21:58:43Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You’re fucking delusional. Quite the silver-tongued devil, aren’t you. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/239 "2017-01-04T21:59:14Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > When Obama took office, the country was still reeling from the effects of the sub-prime ARM debacle. A bubble that the U.S. Congress and banking committee made possible. Since there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the U.S. economy, any idiot could have watched the economy recover. Way to go Obama. :rolleyes: I stand corrected. You’re a delusional fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/240 "2017-01-04T22:00:51Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > When Obama took office, the country was still reeling from the effects of the sub-prime ARM debacle. A bubble that the U.S. Congress and banking committee made possible. Since there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the U.S. economy, any idiot could have watched the economy recover. Way to go Obama. :rolleyes: We’re about to hand over a healthy economy to an idiot, We’ll see. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125.md?page=13)