# "Leave Donald Alone!" Pleads His Press Secretary **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 2, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125 "2017-01-02T04:23:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/241 "2017-01-04T22:13:17Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > When he took office, the economy was losing 700K+ jobs a month and unemployment was over 10%. The economy is now adding 150K to 200K jobs per month and unemployment is below 5%. So yeah, Obama deserves some fucking credit for keeping jobs in the US. Really? I mean, with trump being elected only 8 years later, doesn’t he deserve some credit? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/242 "2017-01-04T22:15:07Z")
Just like we handed a healthy economy over to an idiot before. Hmmm. Something seems familiar about this. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/243 "2017-01-04T22:16:49Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Really? I mean, with trump being elected only 8 years later, doesn’t he deserve some credit? Trump may have already asked for credit: > [@](#): > > “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices,” Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Saturday. “I work very, very hard.” > > When Stephanopoulos asked Trump exactly what sacrifices he’s made, Trump said that he’s had “tremendous success” and has created “tens of thousands of jobs” and “built great structures.” See, Obama supporters are taking credit for jobs babyhands has created. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/244 "2017-01-04T22:23:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > We’re about to hand over a healthy economy to an idiot, We’ll see. Yes, we will see, won’t we. What should we do in the mean time? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/245 "2017-01-04T22:45:08Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, we will see, won’t we. > > What should we do in the mean time? Point and laugh at the morons that voted for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/246 "2017-01-04T22:48:55Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, we will see, won’t we. > > What should we do in the mean time? You’re probably not gonna like my first suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/247 "2017-01-04T22:49:21Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Point and laugh at the morons that voted for Trump. **doorhinge** can certainly teach us about laughing. And he’s always available to point at. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/248 "2017-01-04T23:06:02Z")
Liberals believe that decisions should be made by a strong central authority. Conservatives believe that decisions should be made by whatever level of government is controlled by conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/249 "2017-01-04T23:08:58Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, we will see, won’t we. > > What should we do in the mean time? Keep crying like little babies? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/250 "2017-01-04T23:21:41Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, we will see, won’t we. > > What should we do in the mean time? I’m not religious, but prayer might be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/251 "2017-01-04T23:32:52Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Dude… dafuq are you talking about? Please stop making me come to SA’s defense. This is stupid. > > . Yes, it is stupid that Republicans now define Putin and the Russians as their bestest friends, while calling their fellow Americans “enemies”, and trashing the Intelligence community and other public servants. But there you have it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/252 "2017-01-04T23:36:25Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Liberals believe that decisions should be made by a strong central authority. Conservatives believe that decisions should be made by whatever level of government is controlled by conservatives. Liberals believe that decisions should be made that do the greatest amount of good for the citizens and the country. Conservatives believe that decisions should be made that benefit individuals regardless of whether the results are beneficial to the citizens and the country. Liberal: ‘A rising tide raises all boats.’ Conservative: ‘I’m looking out for _Numero Uno_. I’ve got mine, Jack. Keep your hands off of _my_ stack!’ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/253 "2017-01-05T00:00:20Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > That’s the usual fare from the President’s, or soon-to-be-President’s, press secretary, isn’t it? Well, then, I’m sure you can provide three cites off the top of your head of Obama’s press secretary engaging in similar whining about how the mockery his boss endures is soooo unfaaaair… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/254 "2017-01-05T00:02:20Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Just like we handed a healthy economy over to an idiot before. Apparently, “sub-prime ARM debacle” is the fancy-schmancy scientimifical term for “handed a healthy economy over to an idiot”. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/255 "2017-01-05T00:15:17Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Keep crying like little babies? You’d make a good witness for executions. “Look at him! Crying like a little baby!” ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/256 "2017-01-05T00:28:37Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Dude… dafuq are you talking about? Please stop making me come to SA’s defense. This is stupid. > > By definition, a political liberal is someone who wants a larger government. There has to be an updated definition. “A liberal is someone who wants a government”? How’s that work? It certainly reflects 21st century USA. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/257 "2017-01-05T01:28:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > **doorhinge** can certainly teach us about laughing. That signature _ **Hahahaha** _ is so eloquent, and like it’s author, perfect in it’s braying simplicity. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/258 "2017-01-05T04:42:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Then why do Conservatives want to force people to remain at one job, or else lose health insurance, instead of allowing people the freedom to make their own jobs? Why do conservatives insist upon having control over women’s bodies? Why do Conservatives want to forbid people from loving who they want to? Remember when a university education was tuition-free, and the United States made gigantic strides in the sciences? Why do Conservatives want to prohibit people from seeking higher education, unless they want to keep people uneducated so that the government can have power over them? Why do Conservatives want to effectively repeal the First Amendment and set up a theocracy, instead of allowing people to worship as they please? Tradition! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/259 "2017-01-05T05:18:18Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Apparently he can dish out out but [he can’t take it](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/01/trumps-press-secretary-begs-american-people-stop-mocking-donald-trump.html): > > :dubious: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Is this the same D. Trump who loves to mock and insult everyone else? Fuck him. If he can’t take it he should GTFO. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/260 "2017-01-05T06:52:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Then why do Conservatives want to force people to remain at one job, or else lose health insurance, instead of allowing people the freedom to make their own jobs? Why do conservatives insist upon having control over women’s bodies? Why do Conservatives want to forbid people from loving who they want to? Remember when a university education was tuition-free, and the United States made gigantic strides in the sciences? Why do Conservatives want to prohibit people from seeking higher education, unless they want to keep people uneducated so that the government can have power over them? Why do Conservatives want to effectively repeal the First Amendment and set up a theocracy, instead of allowing people to worship as they please? I see you took a course in Cultural Revolution 101, where false villainization of one’s opponent is de rigueur, and that you apparently swallowed it all wholeheartedly and graduated with honors. I’m quite unaware of any legislative attempts on the part of conservatives to do any of these things, much of which is nonsense on its face. Plus it was my assertion that liberals seek to use government to force their will on the populace that this drivel is in response to. But to address your points: 1. Conservatives couldn’t care less about how many jobs you have, nor do they deliberately seek to keep anyone trapped for fear of losing their insurance. They simply don’t want government run health care because they trust competition and profit motive to result in their getting better care than they would through a rationed (and rationing is not only inevitable but unavoidable) government system ruled over and administered by nameless and faceless bureaucrats. They also know that in virtually every country with universal health care, long waits to see specialists and to get needed surgeries is the norm. And then we have the inevitable matter of ‘death panels’, which in reality would simply be functionaries in cubicles following government directives and denying expensive procedures and medications because their actuarial tables show that the patient’s age or condition doesn’t justify the expense. All of the above is what conservatives are really thinking. But liberals have long known, thanks to the likes of Karl Marx, that to foster revolution one must demonize the motives of their enemies. This serves both to short-circuit rational debate and to energize and impassion people toward their side. So what we hear about conservatives from the manipulative leaders of the left and their gullible lackeys who swallow every word, is that conservatives _want_ people trapped in jobs they don’t like, or we _want_ to see people dying for lack of insurance we selfishly don’t want to pay for, etc., etc, etc. The same crap comes into play with abortion as well, where the meme from the left is that conservatives want to control what women can do with their own bodies. The truth is that they don’t. What they try to have control over is what women can do to someone else’s body - a body they created, and had no say so whatever in its own creation at that. This stuff about us trying to deny women control over their own bodies is merely a smokescreen, and a deliberately inflammatory one, designed to deflect attention from the true fact, which is that after a certain point, a living, feeling and sentient human being is being killed, often in horrific and painful ways, in order to serve the convenience of the person who created it. So again you see that the conservative position is not driven by mean or punitive motives. To the contrary, it’s driven by empathetic, sympathetic and humanitarian concerns about human life. In our view it’s those who champion abortion who are the mean, cruel and heartless ones. The only thing in your list that bears any semblance to reality is in regard to your assertion that conservatives (or at least those in leadership positions) resist acceptance of certain forms of love. In this case I’ll agree you have a point, but these attitudes are changing as people become more familiar with and acquainted with gay people and learn that their prejudices are unfounded. But the rest of your list is just inaccurate and inflammatory poppycock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125.md?page=14)