# "Leave Donald Alone!" Pleads His Press Secretary

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 2, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125 "2017-01-02T04:23:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/281 "2017-01-05T18:42:33Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No to both.

Translation: I prefer to continue to wallow in willful ignorance.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/282 "2017-01-05T18:50:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, you ask him to agree that he is disagreeable? I think I see the problem.

You are right. The question mark was superfluous on my part.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/283 "2017-01-05T19:06:12Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> Point and laugh at the morons that voted for Trump.

Isn’t that what got Hillary elected President? Oh, wait… that’s what didn’t happen. Keep up the good work. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/284 "2017-01-05T20:07:04Z")

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Where’s **QuickSilver** when we need him?

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/285 "2017-01-05T20:09:49Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No to both.

But you are the original **YouTuber** , correct?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/286 "2017-01-05T21:13:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No to both.

Ok I can understand no to the second part, (I didn’t really expect complete surrender) but why no to the first part?

You just said that you thought that the comments we made were  
[QUOTE=Startving Artist]  
"good and worthy of consideration in trying to determine the best way to deliver health care to the country’s citizens.  
[/QUOTE]

But you refuse to engage them. The only reasons I can come up with is either that you don’t actually have a response that answers our concerns, but don’t want to admit that your Conservative talking points are full of hot air, or that you simply enjoy in the back and forth of partisan attacks and so would rather keep the discussion at a “liberals bad” level where its more fun. But I allow that it is possible that there is a third alternative that is actually the correct one. If so, I would honestly be interested in hearing what it is.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/287 "2017-01-05T21:16:38Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Isn’t that what got Hillary elected President? Oh, wait… that’s what didn’t happen. Keep up the good work. 😃

Trump fans are profoundly stupid and very poorly informed. They will always be this way and no amount of pandering to the poor dummies will make the slightest difference.  
They aren’t listening to anyone but Fox News, Hannity, Limbaugh, Breitbart and anyone that promises to stick it to Liberals anyway.

There is no “winning them over” and the only solution is to outvote them, which Democrats failed to do.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/288 "2017-01-05T21:44:18Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No to both.

We’re not surprised, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t disappointed.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/289 "2017-01-05T21:50:11Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Where’s **QuickSilver** when we need him?

Sorry, **doorhinge** blew out my\* imbecile to english\* translator with that last one.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/290 "2017-01-05T21:53:51Z")

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Hahahaha. _\<resumes finger-painting with his own shit\>_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/291 "2017-01-06T01:39:10Z")

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(Turd shortened.)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/292 "2017-01-06T05:21:13Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It makes perfect sense for Corporate America to want people to feel as if they are trapped in their jobs and can’t move-retraining costs money, and a broken workforce is a docile workforce.

and if they can convince workers they have to settle for or “take what they can get” (be thankful for the few scraps we throw at you) then more money goes to exec bonuses for orchestrating sell offs and lay offs, instead of going for pay and benefits for the people actually doing the work.\

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Well, having people trapped in jobs means you can pay them less and work them harder without their quitting on you. It’s the same reason they oppose any other policies and organizations that would shift negotiating power from labor to management.

This

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/293 "2017-01-06T14:37:30Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> and if they can convince workers they have to settle for or “take what they can get” (be thankful for the few scraps we throw at you) then more money goes to exec bonuses for orchestrating sell offs and lay offs, instead of going for pay and benefits for the people actually doing the work.\

When I worked for a large, multinational credit-reporting company, people mentioned to our department manager that extra duties were making it difficult to keep up with increasing incoming data. Her ‘pep talk’ was basically, ‘It’s only going to get worse. Just be glad you all have jobs.’ And the threat of layoffs was always in the air, even though they only happened every year or two years.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/294 "2017-01-06T15:52:27Z")

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**Starving Artist** -“Golly! I just _cannot_ understand why _Manage_ment would want to manage their workers to the company’s advantage. Why would they want to do _that_?”  
Maybe if he redirected some of that hot air he spews to his oxygen-starved brain understanding might spring forth.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/295 "2017-01-06T15:57:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> When I worked for a large, multinational credit-reporting company, people mentioned to our department manager that extra duties were making it difficult to keep up with increasing incoming data. Her ‘pep talk’ was basically, ‘It’s only going to get worse. Just be glad you all have jobs.’ And the threat of layoffs was always in the air, even though they only happened every year or two years.

That’s what I don’t understand about (American) business. “Beatings will continue until morale improves” is no way to motivate employees. Because it’s not the employee’s fault the conditions are shit.

I once had a boss who told someone to do something, and the employee did it. Fine. Then the boss was asked why he didn’t thank the employee. “Why should I thank him? He did his job,” was the response. Oh, I don’t know why…maybe to motivate the guy to continue doing his job, or [gasp] even…improve?

I worked at Waldenbooks, and sold a record number of membership programs in one day for my store. I brought it up to my boss, who said, “Yeah, I noticed.” That was it. She didn’t care, so why should I?

People need money and good pay, of course, but why don’t employers understand that if they motivate their employees by treating them like human beings, and not replaceable cattle, then the company profits would increase. Bosses have a self- interest to treat employees decently, but they don’t seem to see it.

I see Czarcasm said pretty much the same thing, only with a lot fewer words. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/296 "2017-01-06T16:01:31Z")

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The news has taken to publishing Cheato’s tweets as broadsides. From ABC News, this morning:

> [@](#):
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> **–NEW FROM TRUMP’S TWITTER THIS MORNING:**
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> [ul]  
> [li]6:19 AM: The dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later![/li][li]6:39 AM: Hillary and the Dems were never going to beat the PASSION of my voters. They saw what was happening in the last two weeks before the…[/li][li]6:45 AM: and knew they were in big trouble - which is why they cancelled their big fireworks at the last minute.THEY SAW A MOVEMENT LIKE NEVER BEFORE[/li][li]7:05 AM: Hopefully, all supporters, and those who want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will go to D.C. on January 20th. It will be a GREAT SHOW![/li][li]7:34 AM: Wow, the ratings are in and [Arnold Schwarzenegger](http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/arnold-schwarzenegger.htm) got “swamped” (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for…[/li][li]7:42 AM: being a movie star-and that was season 1 compared to season 14. Now compare him to my season 1. But who cares, he supported Kasich & Hillary[/li][li]9:18 AM: Anna Wintour came to my office at Trump Tower to ask me to meet with the editors of Conde Nast & Steven Newhouse, a friend. Will go this AM.[/li][/ul]

Ladies and gentlemen and Trump voters, our 45th and last President. I’m off to get religion so I can sincerely say, “God help us all, every one.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/297 "2017-01-06T16:04:52Z")

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> [@Leo\_Krupe](#):
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> That’s what I don’t understand about (American) business.

FTR, the company’s headquarters Was in England. (It’s in Ireland now.) I worked at the [North American headquarters](http://s107.photobucket.com/user/llaaksonen/media/office_flags.jpg.html?sort=3&o=212).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/298 "2017-01-06T16:12:09Z")

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Re: the 7:34 am tweet-WT Holy F?? Is he actually trashing his own show? He is one of the producers of the show, isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/299 "2017-01-06T16:41:02Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> FTR, the company’s headquarters Was in England. (It’s in Ireland now.) I worked at the [North American headquarters](http://s107.photobucket.com/user/llaaksonen/media/office_flags.jpg.html?sort=3&o=212).

Good. Or bad. That means I’m wrong that only the American mindset does business that way. Truthfully, I’m certain it’s like that all over the world–I just have US working experience, so that’s all I can comment on.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Re: the 7:34 am tweet-WT Holy F?? Is he actually trashing his own show? He is one of the producers of the show, isn’t he?

Producer-schmaducer. He’s not on camera on the show, therefore he’s not involved in it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-donald-alone-pleads-his-press-secretary/776125/300 "2017-01-06T16:52:18Z")

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> [@Leo\_Krupe](#):
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> Producer-schmaducer. He’s not on camera on the show, therefore he’s not involved in it.

He has a signed contract with NBC, and he is trashing the same show he is supposed to be promoting for them. I’m pretty sure bad-mouthing the product of the company you work for would be a contract=breaker.

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