# Leave the Citgo sign alone, you grandstanding jingoist schmuck!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909 "2006-09-24T00:55:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/61 "2006-09-25T19:48:21Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
In 1977, at least, you had the beaver on a stack of sticks, incorporating the class year somewhere. Each year’s beaver was different. Ours had a stack of “77’s” in it, including (the only time I know this happened) the stick in the beaver’s mouth.  
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My ring (class of '90) has the stick in the beaver’s mouth as a Roman numeral 90 (XC). (Actually, now that I look at my ring, it’s in his hands, not his mouth.) The word “ninety” is written out in the sticks he’s standing on, and the number 90 appears in the moon overhead, the beaver’s tail, and a tree in the background.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/62 "2006-09-25T19:50:42Z")

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That is very cool. Yous fellas should start an “Ask the MIT Guys” thread.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/63 "2006-09-25T23:49:21Z")

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Any time. My 1980 Rat has the beaver holding a stick and standing on a pile of other ones, and the Great Dome on both sides.

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/64 "2006-09-26T01:09:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]  
What really amazed me about the Citgo sign, which I’d seen a thousand times on TV before I visited Boston, is how _far_ it is from Fenway. It looks like it’s across the street or something, but it’s well past the highway beyond the Green Monster. ([Photo whoring](http://www.flickr.com/photos/troymccluresf/tags/citgo/))  
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It’s only a block away…

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/65 "2006-09-26T01:55:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Motorgirl]  
It’s only a block away…  
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Er.. that came out more tersely than I intended. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/66 "2006-09-26T16:00:05Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
Citgo may now be effectively owned by Venezuelans, but Cities’ Service (I still remember the original green-and-white Triangle + Clover logo) was founded in Middle america, and was US-owned for most of its history.  
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I also remember the Cities’ Service sign from when I went to Fenway Park as a kid. Back when single income families could all afford to go to the park and sit in good seats without taking out a second mortgage.

[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
Joke for you Bostoners:

Cab driver sees man lying by side of road, holding his groin, and groaning. He stops to see if the man needs help. The man gasps “take…me…to…hospital”. The cab driver say “Peter Bent”? The man says “Bent? She damn near bit it off”.  
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One Friday morning a long time ago, a woman boarded the train in Concord, bound for Boston. The train was almost full, but she noticed a vacant seat next to an older woman. She asked if the seat was taken, and was told that it was not so she sat.

She said to the older woman “I take this train every Friday, and have often seen you here as well.”

“Oh yes, dear, I go into Boston every Friday to get scrod.”

“Oh, so do I! But I didn’t know that that was how it was pronounced.”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/67 "2006-09-27T06:07:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Plynck]  
“Oh yes, dear, I go into Boston every Friday to get scrod.”

“Oh, so do I! But I didn’t know that that was how it was pronounced.”  
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To Boston! The Hub of the Universe  
The home of the bean and the [s]c[r]od  
Where Cabot speaks only to Lowell  
And Lowell speaks only to God

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/68 "2006-09-27T22:37:35Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
To Boston! The Hub of the Universe  
The home of the bean and the [s]c[r]od  
Where Cabot speaks only to Lowell  
And Lowell speaks only to God  
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Dear God, man!  
You’ve just put the Lowells above the Cabots!  
::swoons::

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/69 "2006-09-27T22:58:18Z")

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Well, God is “Old Money”…

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/70 "2006-09-28T02:49:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Motorgirl]  
Dear God, man!  
You’ve just put the Lowells above the Cabots!  
::swoons::  
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The Lowells see nothing untoward in this. They inquire, for instance, whether there is any municipality in the Bay State called “Cabot.”

[As to the **ETF** gender…](http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2124099670000735275pjllln)

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/71 "2006-09-28T14:06:56Z")

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I graduated from U Lowell and currently live on Cabot St. Who can I look down on?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/72 "2006-09-28T14:52:06Z")

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[QUOTE=dinahmoe]  
I graduated from U Lowell and currently live on Cabot St. Who can I look down on?  
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The Saltonstalls?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/73 "2006-09-28T15:04:10Z")

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Midgets?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/74 "2006-09-28T15:11:35Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Midgets?  
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Not if they’re standing on the shoulders of giants.

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/75 "2006-09-28T18:13:57Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
Not if they’re standing on the shoulders of giants.  
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I don’t know about any _shoulders_ of giants in Boston. I’ve only seen Andre the Giant’s disembodied head.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/76 "2006-09-28T18:34:20Z")

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[QUOTE=LilyoftheValley]  
I don’t know about any _shoulders_ of giants in Boston. I’ve only seen Andre the Giant’s disembodied head.  
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Holy shit – you mean the terrorists have struck the WWF? We’re doomed! :eek:

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-the-citgo-sign-alone-you-grandstanding-jingoist-schmuck/373909/77 "2006-09-29T01:05:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Plynck]  
I also remember the Cities’ Service sign from when I went to Fenway Park as a kid. Back when single income families could all afford to go to the park and sit in good seats without taking out a second mortgage.  
One Friday morning a long time ago, a woman boarded the train in Concord, bound for Boston. The train was almost full, but she noticed a vacant seat next to an older woman. She asked if the seat was taken, and was told that it was not so she sat.

She said to the older woman “I take this train every Friday, and have often seen you here as well.”

“Oh yes, dear, I go into Boston every Friday to get scrod.”

“Oh, so do I! But I didn’t know that that was how it was pronounced.”  
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I heard another version:

Cabbie picks up man at the airport and asks him where he wants to go.

“I want to get scrod”

The cabbie says: “I’ve been driving hack for 35 years and I never herad someone refere to it in the plu-perfect tense before”.

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