# Leave your berets at home

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 14, 2010, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630 "2010-11-14T09:08:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/1 "2010-11-14T09:08:49Z")

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Make sure you leave your berets and blue helmets at home folks if you don’t want  
[crazy people](http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101113093742AA4jIry) mowing you down in the grocery store.  
And a big Fuck You to Jesse Ventura like we needed someone else to stir up the nutters. What you didn’t think Glen Beck could handle it on his own? You needed to get the frothing masses whipped up even more.

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> Glenn Back, who has warned America about this is first on the list…then the rest of the right wing radio patriots and all of the personnel that work directly or indirectly for FOX ‘News’. If you’re a registered Republican I suggest that as soon as you can arrange it, grab your guns and your Bible and go as far underground as you can. Join up with a militia group if possible because you’re already on ‘The List’. You have been warned!

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> There has also been several thousands and thousands of caskets found scattered in large areas all across America, why would we need so many caskets? Please note that the swine flu virus has been confirmed man made… I believe that there will be another huge outbreak and these camps perhaps will be like a quarantine areas for those who are infected, or it could be like a prison for those who do not agree with the upcoming one world government

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> What about the removal of US troops over seas? So what all of a sudden we surrender to this war against terrorism? Because our government knows that soon we will be fighting in our own country, and it is us against the corrupt government. My question is why do the concentration camps have smoke stacks? Sounds like to me these concentration camps are just like Hitlers… crematories and all. God help us!

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> There’s bad people in government fighting AGAINST our rights and individual freedoms. I believe we should identify them and kill them wherever they are found. Somebody’s gotta see one at the store. Kill them where they stand. Anybody wearing a blue helmet or beret, shoot them.

If anybody needs me i’ll be in the back yard burying my berets.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/2 "2010-11-14T10:11:34Z")

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They have been saying the same things since the 1990s. So this is almost 20 years of really rabid, completely insane anti-UN and anti-FEMA hysteria, and it shows no sign of dying back from its hardcore complete psychotic nutball constituency.

This is the subculture the whole idea of ‘black helicopters’ comes from; it is connected to some extent to the UFO believers, but it is not co-extant with them. It is, however, chock full of the really scary racists and anti-Semites, especially in the Militia/Patriot Movement subgroup of this crazy gumbo with extra crazy. It’s also one of the anti-vaccine groups, an outgrowth of the much older anti-fluoridation nuttery. It has some affinity to the John Birch Society and, going back further, to the Ku Klux Klan and the racist, anti-Semitic audience of Father Coughlin.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/3 "2010-11-14T10:20:11Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> They have been saying the same things since the 1990s.

Yes. And people have also been scaremongering _about_ them since the 1990s. I don’t believe they are much of a threat to anyone. Their movements are impotent, incompetent and cowardly and they have never accomplished anything.

I don’t understand how Jesse Ventura fits into this…if the OP would care to explain, that would be great.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/4 "2010-11-14T10:39:30Z")

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I found it curious that the Yahoo Answers page linked in the OP is the only Yahoo Answers I’ve ever seen with reasonable spelling and grammar, as well as cogent development of an arguement. Are America’s best and brightest draining off into conspiracy nuttery? And how does this link up the girl that Glenn Beck does not deny murdering in 1990?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/5 "2010-11-14T10:52:35Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> …I don’t understand how Jesse Ventura fits into this…if the OP would care to explain, that would be great.

One of the answers on the OP’s link mentions a “special report” on TruTV about these so-called FEMA camps. It’s hosted by Jesse Ventura.

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**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/6 "2010-11-14T11:19:28Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> YesI don’t understand how Jesse Ventura fits into this…if the OP would care to explain, that would be great.

Sorry! I knew I left something out. Jesse Ventura has a conspiracy show on TruTV that featured the “Proof” of the FEMA camps yesterday, all with railroad tracks running to them to ship us in. And how the government has installed cameras everywhere so they can keep constant watch on us when it’s time to round us up. Also they are going to make us get microchips inplanted so they can track us. At least that was the gist of the show, I can’t be sure about everything as my laughter was blocking the sound.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/7 "2010-11-14T11:31:31Z")

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Wasn’t he a governor, and a pro wrestler? Is there anyone, other than Arnold, who has a weirder career?

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/8 "2010-11-14T13:25:11Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Wasn’t he a governor, and a pro wrestler? Is there anyone, other than Arnold, who has a weirder career?

Hmm, [Bud Spencer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Spencer)? Olympic swimmer, lawyer, inventor, jet and chopper pilot, politician actor and slapper extraordinaire.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/9 "2010-11-14T14:55:48Z")

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What about other colors? Say, ones you find in second-hand stores? Are they okay to wear? I hope so, cause I know this girl and thats about all she has.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/10 "2010-11-14T15:22:29Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> What about other colors? Say, ones you find in second-hand stores? Are they okay to wear? I hope so, cause I know this girl and thats about all she has.

You win the thread.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/11 "2010-11-14T16:38:49Z")

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So this isn’t about a sniper killing people wearing berets. In fact the title has nothing to do with the topic. Try a title that matches the rant.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/12 "2010-11-14T16:47:19Z")

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The mouth-breathers need work on the timeline of their persecution: Obama has to come take their guns _before_ they are herded into the FEMA camps.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/13 "2010-11-14T20:14:14Z")

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A young\*\* Tinkertoy \*\*named Billy-Joe grew restless on the farm  
A boy filled with wanderlust who really meant no harm  
He changed his clothes and shined his boots  
And combed his dark hair down  
And his mother cried as he walked out

Don’t take your beret to town son  
Leave your beret at home, Bill  
Don’t take your beret to town

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/14 "2010-11-14T20:18:14Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> A young\*\* Tinkertoy \*\*named Billy-Joe grew restless on the farm  
> A boy filled with wanderlust who really meant no harm  
> He changed his clothes and shined his boots  
> And combed his dark hair down  
> And his mother cried as he walked out
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> Don’t take your beret to town son  
> Leave your beret at home, Bill  
> Don’t take your beret to town

For the people that haven’t heard the song it’s Don’t Take Your Guns to Town.

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**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/15 "2010-11-14T20:30:25Z")

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> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#):
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> So this isn’t about a sniper killing people wearing berets. In fact the title has nothing to do with the topic. Try a title that matches the rant.

If you will read the last quote in the OP you will notice the advocating of shooting people down in cold blood for wearing berets or blue helmets. The reasoning being they are obviously with the U.N. one world government troops.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/16 "2010-11-14T23:21:26Z")

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From the link in the OP

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> The FEMA camps are an expansion of the ‘black helicopter’ bases. Currently these facilities are patrolled by UN soldiers and maintained by troops from North Korea. As soon as the ‘far left liberals’ get the okay from George Sorus, President Obama will land the Cuban troops currently being trained by former soviet KGB agents and order them to round up the entire leadership of the right, their entire families and all of their known associates. Those that aren’t willing to be re-educated will be killed and their organs sold on the world market.

The sad thing is I can’t tell if the guy who wrote this intended it as over the top mocking sarcasm or if he’s dead serious.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/17 "2010-11-15T00:42:52Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> From the link in the OPThe sad thing is I can’t tell if the guy who wrote this intended it as over the top mocking sarcasm or if he’s dead serious.

[Poe’s Law](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_Law#N.E2.80.93Q). Originally referred to religious fundamentalism, applies nicely to all forms of the nutty fringe of the right wing.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/18 "2010-11-15T01:43:40Z")

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It doesn’t just apply to the right wing, unfortunately. Have you ever heard of Jeff Rense? Even aside from his site and ideology - have you seen what he _looks_ like? I was positive [Rense.com](http://Rense.com) was a joke when I first saw it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/19 "2010-11-15T06:55:29Z")

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So these guys are afraid America is going to be taken over by Jamie Hyneman?

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leave-your-berets-at-home/560630/20 "2010-11-15T07:58:06Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> It doesn’t just apply to the right wing, unfortunately. Have you ever heard of Jeff Rense? Even aside from his site and ideology - have you seen what he _looks_ like? I was positive [Rense.com](http://Rense.com) was a joke when I first saw it.

Whoa, what a site.

What wing is that guy? Nut? He seems to be a major Ron Paul supporter and conspiracy theorist. Not that there is a short supply of left wing batshit, but that guy seems to occupy an entire wing all to himself. Perhaps the mental wing of Bellevue?

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