# Leftist holds "We're racist&proud" sign to smear pro-Zimmerman group
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [July 23, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336 "2013-07-23T23:07:43Z")
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/1 "2013-07-23T23:07:43Z")
> **[CONFIRMED: Left Wing Plant at Houston Pro-Zimmerman Rally Is Far Left Activist...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/busted-left-wing-plant-at-houston-pro-zimmerman-rally-is-far-left-activist/)**
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> Guest Post by Kristinn Taylor LEFTIST PLANT INFILTRATES HOUSTON PRO-ZIMMERMAN RALLY– Liberal Media runs with it A photo from the Houston pro-Zimmerman counter-rally of the NBPP anti-Zimmerman rally picked up by the AP shows a woman holding a sign...
The Houston Chronicle identified her as Renee Vaughan:
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One woman in the Zimmerman group held a sign that said, “We’re racist & proud.”
Austin resident Renee Vaughan echoed the sign’s ugly sentiments by yelling, “We’re racist. We’re proud. We’re better because we’re white,” at the Martin group as they passed, according to the Chronicle.
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That spread [far and wide](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2373141/Justice-Trayvon-Martin-rallies-Racist-proud-group-stages-counter-demonstration.html). Wonder if the fact that she is a wacko leftist will spread just as far and wide.
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### Author:  [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/2 "2013-07-23T23:10:27Z")
Got a cite that’s not from a right wing website with an agenda?
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/3 "2013-07-23T23:10:29Z")
This may just be David Duke’s big chance for re election!
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/4 "2013-07-23T23:15:46Z")
> [@picker](#):
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> Got a cite that’s not from a right wing website with an agenda?
> **[Pro-Zimmerman, Pro-Trayvon Martin groups meet in tense standoff in Houston](https://www.nydailynews.com/2013/07/22/pro-zimmerman-pro-trayvon-martin-groups-meet-in-tense-standoff-in-houston/)**
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> Supporters of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman came face-to-face Sunday during a march through a wealthy neighborhood in Houston. Some 80 pro-Zimmerman supporters waved signs and shouted slogans…
CORRECTION
An earlier version story contained an error that said that a pro-Zimmerman protester held a sign saying, “We’re racist & proud” and shouted that slogan at pro-Trayvon Martin protesters. The woman displayed the sign in front of the pro-Zimmerman group, in an apparent attempt to mock them. It is unclear whether the woman, identified by the Houston Chronicle as Renee Vaughan, was involved with either group.
Huge picture. Tiny correction. And in one place - the picture is spread world-wide.
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### Author:  [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/5 "2013-07-23T23:30:03Z")
So you’re upset that they didn’t make the correction’s size to your liking? I’ve seen correction notices on websites, newspapers, and magazines. They are never huge or attention grabbing, usually on the back somewhere in small print. Your bias is showing because you’re attempting to draw some connection between the small correction and the issue at hand when in fact pretty much all corrections are small. Maybe you should ply your propaganda elsewhere
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### Author:  [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/6 "2013-07-23T23:38:21Z")
From [National Review Online](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354199/pro-zimmerman-racist-was-actually-neither-will-allen):
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> In fairness to Vaughan, there is no evidence that she was a “left-wing plant,” as alleged by the Gateway Pundit (which, adding to the confusion, also misattributes a quotation from the Daily News story as being from the Chronicle).
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> In fact Vaughan made quite the opposite clear, telling Breitbart’s Darby, “This sign means that there are people here who are racist and apparently think that’s OK. I’m not one of them. I’m being sarcastic.”
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> The blame for the distortion rests squarely on reporters and commentators who jumped at what they took to be a picture-perfect demonstration of the hateful backwardness of their ideological opponents.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/7 "2013-07-23T23:40:03Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> So you’re upset that they didn’t make the correction’s size to your liking? I’ve seen correction notices on websites, newspapers, and magazines. They are never huge or attention grabbing, usually on the back somewhere in small print. Your bias is showing because you’re attempting to draw some connection between the small correction and the issue at hand when in fact pretty much all corrections are small. Maybe you should ply your propaganda elsewhere
Do you see a correction [here](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2373141/Justice-Trayvon-Martin-rallies-Racist-proud-group-stages-counter-demonstration.html)?
NBC also published a “correction” for their distorted “racist” quote by Zimmerman. Yet today millions of people think that Zimmerman is racist based on that report.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/8 "2013-07-23T23:53:31Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> Do you see a correction [here](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2373141/Justice-Trayvon-Martin-rallies-Racist-proud-group-stages-counter-demonstration.html)?
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> NBC also published a “correction” for their distorted “racist” quote by Zimmerman. Yet today millions of people think that Zimmerman is racist based on that report.
So you feel that the proper thing to do, the way to mete out justice, as it were, is to falsely attribute attitudes to this woman? Did you issue a tiny correction to your thread title later?
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### Author:  [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/9 "2013-07-23T23:59:59Z")
I hate to break it to you **Terr** , but the people holding signs at Westboro Baptist rallies that protest polyester clothing aren’t actually with the WBC, either.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/10 "2013-07-24T00:25:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> So you feel that the proper thing to do, the way to mete out justice, as it were, is to falsely attribute attitudes to this woman? Did you issue a tiny correction to your thread title later?
What correction? She was there to smear the group.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/11 "2013-07-24T00:26:33Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> I hate to break it to you **Terr** , but the people holding signs at Westboro Baptist rallies that protest polyester clothing aren’t actually with the WBC, either.
Did I say she was with the pro-Zimmerman group? No, she was there to smear them. And the media took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
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### Author:  [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/12 "2013-07-24T00:26:54Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> Do you see a correction [here](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2373141/Justice-Trayvon-Martin-rallies-Racist-proud-group-stages-counter-demonstration.html)?
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> NBC also published a “correction” for their distorted “racist” quote by Zimmerman. Yet today millions of people think that Zimmerman is racist based on that report.
Maybe you can link to some examples of Fox News showing us how corrections should be done.
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/13 "2013-07-24T00:55:28Z")
You aren’t reading the same retraction the rest of us are. They don’t seem to think she was trying to infiltrate, and she claims she wasn’t.
And people thought Zimmerman was racist well before the NBC thing. NBC just made it a lot worse. (And, yes, they were wrong to do so.) So just because people still think he was racist doesn’t mean they learned it from them. The “black person in a hoody” thing predated the NBC broadcast, for example.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/14 "2013-07-24T01:22:10Z")
> [@BigT](#):
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> You aren’t reading the same retraction the rest of us are. They don’t seem to think she was trying to infiltrate, and she claims she wasn’t.
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> And people thought Zimmerman was racist well before the NBC thing. NBC just made it a lot worse. (And, yes, they were wrong to do so.) So just because people still think he was racist doesn’t mean they learned it from them. The “black person in a hoody” thing predated the NBC broadcast, for example.
Did I say “infiltrate”? I said smear. That was her goal and that was what she did.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/15 "2013-07-24T01:28:58Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> Did I say “infiltrate”? I said smear. That was her goal and that was what she did.
You also falsely attributed a political stance to her, presumably in an attempt to do what in your mind would be “smearing” her. Where did you print your tiny retraction?
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/16 "2013-07-24T01:30:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> You also falsely attributed a political stance to her, presumably in an attempt to do what in your mind would be “smearing” her. Where did you print your tiny retraction?
She is definitely a wacko leftist.
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### Author:  [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/17 "2013-07-24T01:50:18Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> She is definitely a wacko leftist.
What’s your evidence for this statement?
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/18 "2013-07-24T03:05:29Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> What’s your evidence for this statement?
Belonging to wacko leftie organization. Not that you would recognize it as such, of course.
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### Author:  [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/19 "2013-07-24T03:26:21Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> Belonging to wacko leftie organization. Not that you would recognize it as such, of course.
What’s your definition of “wacko leftist?” Anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat?
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftist-holds-were-racist-proud-sign-to-smear-pro-zimmerman-group/664336/20 "2013-07-24T03:55:44Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> What’s your definition of “wacko leftist?” Anyone who has ever voted for a Democrat?
When you’re sitting on the far right, 95% of the world is leftist.
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