# Leftists are trying to kill the Right **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 21, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086 "2021-09-21T21:39:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/141 "2021-09-28T19:22:03Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But they still want all the benefits of the social contract, just not the responsibilities. Some of them try to deny there are any benefits at all to the social contract. These are the immature fools who think that they “did everything on my own”, while ignoring all of the things that have been in place for hundreds of years to make their success possible. The best that we can say about them is that they are willfully blind to reality. That’s the _best_ slant. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/142 "2021-09-28T20:34:23Z")
I’ve lived remotely for 30 years. I SUPPORT higher taxes for just about everything. I’m a left leaning moderate with no kids. My Wife and I are DINKS. I always vote for additional funding for schools. I get a little tired of being put in the same bucket as Trump supporting, anti-vax, hyper religious, anti-everything morons. Not all of us living remotely are the same. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/143 "2021-09-29T22:34:19Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I also saw a conservative post shared on Reddit (paraphrased): “The vaccine can’t possibly be a lifesaver. If it were, why would Democrats be trying to get us to take it?” So when one of us has a heart attack or gets in a car wreck, there will be open beds at the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/144 "2021-09-29T22:49:35Z")
Let’s not forget, everyone, that Republicans being vaccinated protects Democratic lives, too. I’ve said it before: Democrats want to make things better for everyone, and are OK with that including making things better for Republicans. Republicans want to make things worse for Democrats, and are OK with that including making things worse for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/145 "2021-09-30T12:27:08Z")
Ted Cruz just came out on the side of the NBA anti-vax players, so maybe that will convince them to get vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/146 "2021-09-30T12:35:22Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But they still want all the benefits of the social contract, just not the responsibilities. So call them what they are: immature, spoiled children who need to be spanked. Hard. It’s always fun to watch “Alaska: The Last Frontier” or “Life Below Zero”, and see all these rugged individualists decry modern civilization, right before they get on their snowmobiles to hunt elk with their precision binoculars and high powered rifles. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/147 "2021-09-30T13:13:54Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But they still want all the benefits of the social contract, just not the responsibilities. So call them what they are: immature, spoiled children who need to be spanked. Hard. Even the ones who go off in the forest and “live on their own” can only do so because of the social contract. I could come across one of these preppers in their sleep, murder them and take all their stuff, but I won’t, not only because I choose to follow the social contract not to do things like that, but because he is protected by it, even if he has rejected it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/148 "2021-09-30T15:22:47Z")
Leftists are trying to kill the Right [It’s working](https://www.knkx.org/2021-09-30/covid-19-deaths-much-higher-in-washingtons-republican-counties-analysis-shows). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/149 "2021-09-30T15:43:38Z")
That is a stark divide. And hysterically funny. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/150 "2021-09-30T15:59:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [It’s working](https://www.knkx.org/2021-09-30/covid-19-deaths-much-higher-in-washingtons-republican-counties-analysis-shows). > [@silenus](#): > > That is a stark divide. No shit! > As of this week, the death rate for people with COVID-19 was **44.4 per 100,000** in counties that voted over 60 percent Republican in statewide races in 2020. By contrast, counties that went for Democratic statewide candidates by 60 percent or more have a death rate of just **6.8 per 100,000**. Bolding mine. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/151 "2021-09-30T16:00:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That is a stark divide. > > And hysterically funny. Not really that funny, though. More “tragic and exasperatingly stupid”. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/152 "2021-09-30T16:30:40Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not really that funny, though. More “tragic and exasperatingly stupid”. Ehh… Willfully ignorant. Not just stupid. The data is there. Most of them can get it. And, their ‘leaders’ aren’t helping them one bit by sending mixed messages. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/153 "2021-09-30T16:32:36Z")
Ironic that one of the sayings I best remember from Texas is: “Some people just need killin’.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/154 "2021-09-30T16:35:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not really that funny, though. I interpreted silenus’s comment as referring to ‘It’s working’, as opposed to the data. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/155 "2021-09-30T16:37:18Z")
I can either laugh or cry about the divide, and I’m all out of tears. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/156 "2021-09-30T16:38:23Z")
I’m not funny, then. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/157 "2021-09-30T16:41:25Z")
The comment was worth a chuckle. The data…well, the dictionary defines “hysterical” as _deriving from or affected by uncontrolled extreme emotion._ I’m emotioned out with these no-vax idiots. I’m gonna go home at lunch and hug my cats. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/158 "2021-09-30T22:19:37Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Their whataboutism arguments are so fucking stupid that anyone with half a brain can pick them apart in 2 seconds. > [@Esprise\_Me](#): > > Seriously. The closest things we have to a vaccine against car crashes are seatbelts and airbags, and guess what? They’re mandatory! > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Not that he’ll listen, but just a quick data point. > > Mortality statistics for 2020 > > [Motor Vehicle deaths 38,680](https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2020-fatality-data-show-increased-traffic-fatalities-during-pandemic) > [Covid deaths 377,883](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm#T1_down) > > So about a 10 fold difference. I want all three of you to know I did respond to the guy and I used all of these points to refute his assertions. I did not give any of you credit, but I also did not claim them as my ideas or research. If you would like credit, I will e-mail him again and correct the record. Thank you for not only giving me these very useful tools to combat his rhetoric, but for engaging in the topic and caring about the well being of Americans on the right and on the left (and seeing it is all one population - something the right can’t seem to grasp). > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Leftists are trying to kill the Right > > [It’s working](https://www.knkx.org/2021-09-30/covid-19-deaths-much-higher-in-washingtons-republican-counties-analysis-shows). Sorry, forgot to give you credit too! This is where I started my rebuttal with the linked article. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/159 "2021-11-09T22:35:20Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Anyway, as someone trying to get more conservatives to vaccinate, I have to say thst this constant politicization of the issue is not helpful. This statement should be cast in concrete on the steps of the governors’ mansions in Texas and Florida. (Maybe DeSantis and Abbot are running a false flag operation trying to make their states blue? 😉) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftists-are-trying-to-kill-the-right/951086/160 "2021-11-10T16:23:22Z")
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