# Leftover Apollo hardware

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 22, 2001, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftover-apollo-hardware/77591 "2001-08-22T18:45:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftover-apollo-hardware/77591/21 "2001-08-24T04:02:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by toadspittle \*  
> **Energiya 95 tons, Saturn V 100 tons. I can’t imagine that the 5 tons would make much difference, or couldn’t be compensated for w/o too much trouble.**

As the story goes, they were ready to cut the number of band-aids in the Apollo first-aid kits in half to save weight. Of course, that was for the LM, which is a totally different beast than the launch vehicle.

Perhaps this goes without saying (because no one has said it yet, but I will), but we still have at least one LM: the leftover from Apollo 18. The makers of _From the Earth to the Moon_ reportedly refurbished it to use as scenery.

The LM at the Smithsonian is actually the second one built, according to [Encyclopedia Astronautica](http://www.friends-partners.org/mwade/craft/apollolm.htm). NASA decided not to test fly it, and went ahead with the Apollo 9 flight of LM-3 (“Spider”). It further says that LM-14, intended for Apollo 20, was still under construction when that mission was cancelled. Not clear what happened to it. And what happened to Apollo 19’s LM-13?

As for CSMs, the last one apparently was the one that docked with the Soyuz in 1975. It was nearly pressed into service as a rescue ship for the second Skylab crew. It was also almost used to fly a booster up to Skylab to keep it in orbit until the shuttle was ready.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leftover-apollo-hardware/77591/22 "2001-08-24T04:14:54Z")

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> The blueprints do still exist.

Anybody know if you can get copies? (Not that I’m planning on building a Saturn V in my backyard or anything, but it’d be pretty cool to have a set.)

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