# Legal in All Circumstances (or, I Wish a Muthasucka would!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622 "2009-09-26T04:20:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/41 "2009-09-29T04:56:04Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > You didn’t know it was legal? Your lame-ass bitching made me think Roe had been overturned or something. There, there, we all heard you, you’re a brave girl, we’ll call you “Abortolass” or “Babykiller” (sorry, “Clump-of-tissue evicter”); here’s a star, now stick it in your navel till you reach the vertebrae. When you’re coming back take out your uterus so you won’t ever have to even consider being annoyed by abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/42 "2009-09-29T05:01:05Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > The difference in all of those except the driving drunk is that those are still choices - nobody has made a law that says that you have to take any prescription or buy health insurance. But they do keep trying to make it a law that any woman that gets pregnant shall be forced to carry the pregnancy to term. Simply because some people think life begins at conception. Why are they allowed to force their religion off on us? > > What does this mean? > [@curlcoat](#): > > There is no baby’s body. I’d think that would be clear by now. (Sorry for double-posting) So I’m forced to pay for her babykilling? Why are people allowed to force their belifes on innocent powerless babies? It means that “the miracle of life” doesn’t end during delivery. No body, sure, [this isn’t a body by any means](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vFFxUyXKv-Q/RgvC58Vwf5I/AAAAAAAAACs/A5FYKH4Tj6k/s1600-h/abortion0801_1.jpg), it’s a bloodclot. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/43 "2009-09-29T13:21:06Z")
**straight face** Abortolass is the greatest name ever. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/44 "2009-09-29T13:26:59Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > No body, sure, [this isn’t a body by any means](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vFFxUyXKv-Q/RgvC58Vwf5I/AAAAAAAAACs/A5FYKH4Tj6k/s1600-h/abortion0801_1.jpg), it’s a bloodclot. Salamanders aren’t people. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/45 "2009-09-29T13:29:46Z")
Aji honey… have a napkin. You got a bit of spittle there. In all seriousness, may I ask, how passionate are you about babies? Like, \*born \*babies? Like, starving in Africa babies? Do you get this worked up about it? ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/46 "2009-09-29T13:51:22Z")
I’m not really one for sig lines, but this: “This probably goes without saying, but if a homeless guy takes up residence in my womb, I am pretty sure I get to stab him.” has got to rank right up there with the best. Someone should grab it and FAST. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/47 "2009-09-29T13:51:49Z")
I’m just going to say this. My sister-in-law had her second baby, and while she was in there, got her tubes tied with no issue and no fuss. I, who have no kids, have wanted to get my tubes tied since I was…oh, 25 or so. I’m 33 now. I’ve been told twice gently that I should wait a few more years, and now that I probably can get it, it costs a fortune and I can’t figure out how to pay for it. I don’t think my insurance will pay for it, though I have searched and can’t find anything on it. Just demonstrating the difference between mothers and the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/48 "2009-09-29T13:56:30Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > **straight face** > > Abortolass is the greatest name ever. Except I keep reading it as “Albatross.” ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/49 "2009-09-29T14:02:44Z")
Abortolass kills albatrosses. With extreme prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/50 "2009-09-29T14:27:54Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I’m just going to say this. > > My sister-in-law had her second baby, and while she was in there, got her tubes tied with no issue and no fuss. > > I, who have no kids, have wanted to get my tubes tied since I was…oh, 25 or so. I’m 33 now. I’ve been told twice gently that I should wait a few more years, and now that I probably can get it, it costs a fortune and I can’t figure out how to pay for it. I don’t think my insurance will pay for it, though I have searched and can’t find anything on it. > Just demonstrating the difference between mothers and the rest of us. Just demonstrating the difference between mothers and fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/51 "2009-09-29T14:46:00Z")
Wouldn’t you like to be a fucker too? ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/52 "2009-09-29T18:56:18Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Salamanders aren’t people. Absolutely right, different species, but I suspect that the DNA analysis would indicate _Homo sapiens_. Thanks, though, for the scientific tidbit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/53 "2009-09-29T19:10:29Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Absolutely right, different species, but I suspect that the DNA analysis would indicate _Homo sapiens_. My money is on a half-chewed gummy bear. I guess we will never know. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/54 "2009-09-29T21:30:38Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > My money is on a half-chewed gummy bear. I guess we will never know. My money is on your having giant-squid excrement for brains. I’ll cover the spread. Or maybe the truth makes you so uncomfortable you need a lame-lame-lame-ass joke to cover for it. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/55 "2009-09-30T01:01:54Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > (Sorry for double-posting) > So I’m forced to pay for her babykilling? Why would you be paying for anyone’s abortion? > [@](#): > > Why are people allowed to force their belifes on innocent powerless babies? Because, they aren’t babies until they are fully cooked and born. Prior to that, they are fetuses (feti?). > [@](#): > > It means that “the miracle of life” doesn’t end during delivery. > No body, sure, [this isn’t a body by any means](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vFFxUyXKv-Q/RgvC58Vwf5I/AAAAAAAAACs/A5FYKH4Tj6k/s1600-h/abortion0801_1.jpg), it’s a bloodclot. Yup! ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/56 "2009-09-30T01:12:23Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Aji honey… have a napkin. You got a bit of spittle there. > > In all seriousness, may I ask, how passionate are you about babies? Like, \*born \*babies? Like, starving in Africa babies? Do you get this worked up about it? Heck, what about the babies here in the US? However, most of these anti-choicers don’t give a tinker’s damn about actual babies, they just want to force either their religious views or misogyny on the rest of us. > [@Anaamika](#): > > I, who have no kids, have wanted to get my tubes tied since I was…oh, 25 or so. I’m 33 now. I’ve been told twice gently that I should wait a few more years, and now that I probably can get it, it costs a fortune and I can’t figure out how to pay for it. I don’t think my insurance will pay for it, though I have searched and can’t find anything on it. Give them a call! When I was paying group claims, they all covered tubals. Also, get a referral thru Planned Parenthood to find a doctor that doesn’t think he knows what you want better than you do. > [@](#): > > Just demonstrating the difference between mothers and the rest of us. If it makes you feel any better, it took me until to was almost 35 to find a dr that would do my tubal, since I had no kids or husband at the time, and therefore didn’t know my own mind…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/57 "2009-09-30T01:17:42Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Aji honey… have a napkin. You got a bit of spittle there. > > In all seriousness, may I ask, how passionate are you about babies? Like, \*born \*babies? Like, starving in Africa babies? Do you get this worked up about it? Heck, what about the babies here in the US? However, most of these anti-choicers don’t give a tinker’s damn about actual babies, they just want to force either their religious views or misogyny on the rest of us. > [@Anaamika](#): > > I, who have no kids, have wanted to get my tubes tied since I was…oh, 25 or so. I’m 33 now. I’ve been told twice gently that I should wait a few more years, and now that I probably can get it, it costs a fortune and I can’t figure out how to pay for it. I don’t think my insurance will pay for it, though I have searched and can’t find anything on it. Give them a call! When I was paying group claims, they all covered tubals. Also, get a referral thru Planned Parenthood to find a doctor that doesn’t think he knows what you want better than you do. > [@](#): > > Just demonstrating the difference between mothers and the rest of us. If it makes you feel any better, it took me until to was almost 35 to find a dr that would do my tubal, since I had no kids or husband at the time, and therefore didn’t know my own mind…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/58 "2009-09-30T02:06:14Z")
FYI, I git the same bullshit from docs as an unmarried childless man looking for a vasectomy in my 20s. I had to wait almost 10 years because I wasn’t pushy enough. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/59 "2009-09-30T03:00:19Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > FYI, I git the same bullshit from docs as an unmarried childless man looking for a vasectomy in my 20s. I had to wait almost 10 years because I wasn’t pushy enough. “Pushy enough” I think is the key, but the doctors sure do have a problem with those of us who aren’t (weren’t) married! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622/60 "2009-09-30T03:39:10Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Or maybe the truth makes you so uncomfortable you need a lame-lame-lame-ass joke to cover for it. Truth? What does that picture have to do with truth? The fact is, we don"t know what it is showing. There is no descriptive caption, no citation of sources, no references at all; are we suppose to assume it has not been photo-shopped or manufactured? You haven’t even made any claims for the photo, you just throw it out there, and hope everybody jumps to a conclusion. Devoid of context, that picture is meaningless. So there is just as much proof that picture is a gummy bear as there is for what ever you are claiming it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-in-all-circumstances-or-i-wish-a-muthasucka-would/511622.md?page=4)